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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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I can't help but think that Jesus would be (or is) offended by the lavish trappings of the Catholic Church these days.   Obviously... they love all that bling....  but they shouldn't.


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OK, but what does any of that have to do with this story?

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False prophets..... profiting from their career of leading people astray and away from God's word.  I sure wouldn't want to be in their shoes come Judgment Day.
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He can say it as many times as he wants but that won’t change the catechism. The Church has endured worse than Frank and will endure worse before Kingdom come. Frank’s a fraud. That stated, I joined the Church with him as Pope. He didn’t deter me one bit.
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OK, but what does any of that have to do with this story?

Interesting question since at least 60% of the replies have nothing to do with the story.  Wonder why you called out mine.   :pondering:

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Interesting question since at least 60% of the replies have nothing to do with the story.  Wonder why you called out mine.   :pondering:

You mean the subject of the Pope and stuff he says?  No, most of the comments, if not all, were on that topic.  Except yours.  Hmmmmm.  :pondering:

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You mean the subject of the Pope and stuff he says? 

Nope.  You've all the makings of a good 'ole Catholic bashing thread here ... starting with Catholicism being a "cult" sliding into ridicule of the clergy's vestments and comparisons to the bible's money changers.  I didn't see any of *this* in the original article. 

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All respect to the religion and its followers, but that hat looks like something straight out of Saturday Night Live.
Hard to believe it is the real thing.

Sorry... but I have never understood the whole dress-up thing with Catholics... That thing looks like a gaudy flour canister with the rotating dancers from a Bavarian clock glued on top... All it needs is wind chimes... or a CB antenna. :shrug:
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Sorry... but I have never understood the whole dress-up thing with Catholics... That thing looks like a gaudy flour canister with the rotating dancers from a Bavarian clock glued on top... All it needs is wind chimes... or a CB antenna. :shrug:

To me it looks like a fancy 3 tier wedding cake. No Catholic bashing here. I love Catholics, always have. Been to Catholic Church many times. But that hat is outrageous.
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Sorry... but I have never understood the whole dress-up thing with Catholics... That thing looks like a gaudy flour canister with the rotating dancers from a Bavarian clock glued on top... All it needs is wind chimes... or a CB antenna. :shrug:

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Naw,it needs some coo-coo birds popping out those places that look like mini-windows to really set it off.
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Nope.  You've all the makings of a good 'ole Catholic bashing thread here ... starting with Catholicism being a "cult" sliding into ridicule of the clergy's vestments and comparisons to the bible's money changers.  I didn't see any of *this* in the original article.
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Likely I disagree w/you on several fundamental issues;
yet in fairness, you are absolutely correct on this matter.
There have been but few theologically structured religions
since the Garden of Eden; excepting Judaism, Roman
Catholicism and Hinduism; yet none of them are cults;
which worships at the altar of the material world.
A classic example of the latter is Islam as well as Confucianism.

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Likely I disagree w/you on several fundamental issues;

Why are you qualifying your support of my post @Absalom

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Nope.  You've all the makings of a good 'ole Catholic bashing thread here ... starting with Catholicism being a "cult" sliding into ridicule of the clergy's vestments and comparisons to the bible's money changers.  I didn't see any of *this* in the original article.
Feels like the Free Republic all over again.

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Nope.  You've all the makings of a good 'ole Catholic bashing thread here ... starting with Catholicism being a "cult" sliding into ridicule of the clergy's vestments and comparisons to the bible's money changers.  I didn't see any of *this* in the original article.

Well said, @Right_in_Virginia.  Some of the comments seem gratuitously nasty. 
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Well said, @Right_in_Virginia.  Some of the comments seem gratuitously nasty.

You mean.... like this one....?

I think this new pope is a commie stooge.

So there. 
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This so called pope is an antichrist. Revelations predicted there would be many leading up to end times and he is one for sure. Nothing he says is biblical.

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You mean.... like this one....?

I think this new pope is a commie stooge.

So there.

You’re correct, and I’m Catholic.
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This so called pope is an antichrist. Revelations predicted there would be many leading up to end times and he is one for sure. Nothing he says is biblical.

Since the beginning of time we have been predicting the end of time. You know what all those predictions have in common? They were all wrong. This pope too shall pass, just like the obama era.
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You’re correct, and I’m Catholic.

Lol..... I bet you can tell I don't much care for commies, eh?   

My ex was Catholic.  Even he pulled away from the church when certain deviations started being made.  I've never been a fan of "organized" religion, so no loss for me.  But I do feel bad for devoted Catholics that have had to contend with these ""fundamental transformations"".   Sign of the times, I suppose.   :shrug:
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Lol..... I bet you can tell I don't much care for commies, eh?   

My ex was Catholic.  Even he pulled away from the church when certain deviations started being made.  I've never been a fan of "organized" religion, so no loss for me.  But I do feel bad for devoted Catholics that have had to contend with these ""fundamental transformations"".   Sign of the times, I suppose.   :shrug:

Not at all. Like I posted earlier, I converted to Catholicism with Frank as pope. He's not fundamentally changing anything. He can't.
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Not at all. Like I posted earlier, I converted to Catholicism with Frank as pope. He's not fundamentally changing anything. He can't.

You actually think that his proclamations (which go against the Christian faith) are not turning off others from the Catholic Church?  Just because it didn't deter you, doesn't mean it isn't turning off others.  JS.....
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