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Anyway back to Barry Goldwater. "Conservatism" has wandered, with the evangelicals clearly dominating, and that leaves Goldwater outside their circle--even if they say otherwise.

Goldwater was far more of the libertarian wing at his end. That also suits me well.

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And THAT was correct for a conservative POV. It recognizes personal freedoms,whereas the Bible-Thumpers want us all to be slaves to their God,and to dictate to us how to live. There IS no freedom in a country dominated by religion,only slaves and masters.
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So Flake wants a friend in Washington.

What is the matter?

Can't he afford a dog?

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There IS no freedom in a country dominated by religion,only slaves and masters.

There is no liberty in a country devoid of biblical morality and personal adherence to religion, you only have slaves and masters to the government then.
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Don't get me started on Zombies....

I killed so many zombies (vicariously) on The Walking Dead.  But I gave the show up a couple of years ago.  It lost its charm, or whatever.  Or I just lost interest.  But zombies have definitely taken over the weird world.  I used to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.  At least it took a little skill to take out a vampire.
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This is asinine. The statement and entire presser was cringe worthy and idiotic, but even with the biggest stretch it doesn't amount to treason. Stupid yes, treason no.

Wow, didn't expect that coming from you.

But yeah, I'm in 100% agreement. Flake obviously has some axe to grind against his orangeness.

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So Flake wants a friend in Washington.

What is the matter?

Can't he afford a dog?

:)

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Even the dogs in DC can't be trusted,
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There is no liberty in a country devoid of biblical morality and personal adherence to religion, you only have slaves and masters to the government then.

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You mean the morality that demands soldiers swing the babies of their enemies into stone walls to bash their brains out so that people will cease to exist?

Or maybe the morality that worships a kind and loving God that teaches children they will burn in hell fire forever if they have lustful thoughts,never mind actually do something lustful?

Or the morality of a people that worship a God that will condemn humans to hellfire forever for being jealous,and then turns around and claims "I am a jealous God,and you will have no other Gods before me!"

Ahhhh,there is just soooo MUCH love there!

Organized religion is about nothing but power and wealth. They use the threat of hell and the promise of eternal life to con the guilty and the weak-minded into doing anything they want them to do in order to avoid hell and live forever.
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I killed so many zombies (vicariously) on The Walking Dead.  But I gave the show up a couple of years ago.  It lost its charm, or whatever.  Or I just lost interest.  But zombies have definitely taken over the weird world.  I used to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.  At least it took a little skill to take out a vampire.

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The Walking Dead isn't really about zombies or the supernatural. They were just the "tool" used to set the stage and to pull in younger viewers. It's really about what would happen if civilization were to collapse,and how we could or would go about restoring order again.
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The Walking Dead isn't really about zombies or the supernatural. They were just the "tool" used to set the stage and to pull in younger viewers. It's really about what would happen if civilization were to collapse,and how we could or would go about restoring order again.

@sneakypete   Did you ever notice there were no fat zombies?  What's up with that.  There are a lot of fat people; did they suddenly lose weight when bitten?
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@sneakypete   Did you ever notice there were no fat zombies?  What's up with that.  There are a lot of fat people; did they suddenly lose weight when bitten?

I always figured they were Anorexic from living with Democrats. :shrug:
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I always figured they were Anorexic from living with Democrats. :shrug:

There are two kinds of zombies. Regular, slow, leg-dragging overwieght zombies, and super-fast zombies. Both are stupid and can't figure out how to throw a rock through a window or talk more than two words (usually "eat" and "brains"), but the super-fast zombies are 30Xs scarier than the regular type.  The super fast ones are the thin Zombies All the fastness speeds up their metabolism. The difference between the two is like this: You either see the hoard of zombies coming from 2 miles away, and you have about 6 hours to prepare your evacuation of the area, pack the car, lock the door, and leave food out for Fluffy; Or, you see the hoard of zombies coming from 2 miles away, and --- You're dead because they got to you before you could tell your wife, "Dear, there's zombies a'comin'."
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This zombie business is far more complicated than I thought....

Where does the baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire come it?
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This zombie business is far more complicated than I thought....

Where does the baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire come it?

Was that in season 7 of the Walking Dead?

I missed it!   :)
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@sneakypete   Did you ever notice there were no fat zombies?  What's up with that.  There are a lot of fat people; did they suddenly lose weight when bitten?

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Don't know. I am guessing all that wandering around at 1 MPH limits the amount of food they eat.
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Don't know. I am guessing all that wandering around at 1 MPH limits the amount of food they eat.

I think we may be attributing more to that series than existed in it.  It's sad because the first few years contained some really good stories.
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There are two kinds of zombies. Regular, slow, leg-dragging overwieght zombies, and super-fast zombies. Both are stupid and can't figure out how to throw a rock through a window or talk more than two words (usually "eat" and "brains"), but the super-fast zombies are 30Xs scarier than the regular type.  The super fast ones are the thin Zombies All the fastness speeds up their metabolism. The difference between the two is like this: You either see the hoard of zombies coming from 2 miles away, and you have about 6 hours to prepare your evacuation of the area, pack the car, lock the door, and leave food out for Fluffy; Or, you see the hoard of zombies coming from 2 miles away, and --- You're dead because they got to you before you could tell your wife, "Dear, there's zombies a'comin'."

Fortunately, I never saw the 'fast zombie.'  But leaving Fluffy to get eaten... that just ain't right.
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And THAT was correct for a conservative POV. It recognizes personal freedoms,whereas the Bible-Thumpers want us all to be slaves to their God,and to dictate to us how to live. There IS no freedom in a country dominated by religion,only slaves and masters.

That is why I said conservatism has wandered, and one (or more) of our members speaks as if he would be Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell, of a theocracy.

Flake together with #nevertrumpers on the left and right, are consumed with TDS, to an extent it mimics a mental illness, if not one in fact.

When they run their mouths, they only prove their ignorance.
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You mean the morality that demands soldiers swing the babies of their enemies into stone walls to bash their brains out so that people will cease to exist?

What 'morality' written in scripture demands that Petey?  That war is hell is inarguable.  War is a consequence of nations and their leaders not governed by God.

Or maybe the morality that worships a kind and loving God that teaches children they will burn in hell fire forever if they have lustful thoughts,never mind actually do something lustful?

Or the morality of a people that worship a God that will condemn humans to hellfire forever for being jealous,and then turns around and claims "I am a jealous God,and you will have no other Gods before me!"

Not all of us subscribe to that everlasting life in hellfire doctrine Pete.  Some of us understand that there is no life after death except through Christ.

Ahhhh,there is just soooo MUCH love there!

Sometimes you let rebellious children suffer the consequences of going their own way and doing what they insist on doing.  Love can be tough if you ever want your kid to mature.

Organized religion is about nothing but power and wealth.

That indeed is the history of nearly all organized religions on the planet.

They use the threat of hell and the promise of eternal life to con the guilty and the weak-minded into doing anything they want them to do in order to avoid hell and live forever.

I think you understand we all die and turn to dust.  You're not interested in anything more than living it out in this miserable flesh?  Is there something inherently evil in your estimation in  the concept of reward for good works and punishment and denial of blessings for evil works?

You know, the evils of murder, torture, theft, betrayal, usury and other fun done by those who are not governed by doing whatever they want to do according to their lusts and desires because they have zero belief in morality.
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That is why I said conservatism has wandered, and one (or more) of our members speaks as if he would be Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell, of a theocracy.

Now you're just running with the Godless Leftists and stealing their talking points by accusing those who are advocating the culture be self-governed by the biblical traditions as demanding a theocracy.

How lazy and convenient for you.
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Now you're just running with the Godless Leftists and stealing their talking points by accusing those who are advocating the culture be self-governed by the biblical traditions as demanding a theocracy.

How lazy and convenient for you.

Hey, we're talkin' zombies here.  Get with the program.
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Hey, we're talkin' zombies here.  Get with the program.

Maybe we can get on the pie subject?
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Maybe we can get on the pie subject?

That could work also.
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That could work also.

I got a new Sous Vide precision cooker on Prime Day....
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Was Ike giving "Aid and Comfort" when he spoke out about the Military-Industrial Complex?

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I got a new Sous Vide precision cooker on Prime Day....

Sous-vide is a method of cooking in which food is placed in a plastic pouch or a glass jar and then placed in a water bath or steam environment for longer than normal cooking times at an accurately regulated temperature.

Okay then.  Bet that makes for some mighty taste vittles. 
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