Author Topic: Putin's Remarks About the NWO and Satanism (Read 2630 times)

the_doc · « **on:** July 19, 2018, 05:41:15 pm »

The following link is an article that will shock a lot of people, but it may partially explain why Trump is receptive to improved relations with Putin:

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/vladimir-putin-the-new-world-order-worships-satan/

Whether or not Putin and Trump are genuine Christians, they are both religious traditionalists in a serious war against the Global Deep State, AKA the New World Order.

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2018, 06:23:32 pm »

Quote from: the_doc on July 19, 2018, 05:41:15 pm

The following link is an article that will shock a lot of people, but it may partially explain why Trump is receptive to improved relations with Putin:

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/vladimir-putin-the-new-world-order-worships-satan/

Whether or not Putin and Trump are genuine Christians, they are both religious traditionalists in a serious war against the Global Deep State, AKA the New World Order.

I find these type of article full of bulls**t. Putin is not a friend. Also not a defender of Christianity.

the_doc · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2018, 06:36:26 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on July 19, 2018, 06:23:32 pm

I find these type of article full of bulls**t. Putin is not a friend. Also not a defender of Christianity.

As I said above, Whether or not Putin and Trump are genuine Christians, they are both religious traditionalists in a serious war against the Global Deep State, AKA the New World Order.

Putin and Trump just happen to be in a war against a common enemy. (Make of that what you will. Just don't ignore it, TBR friend.)

Quix · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2018, 07:16:57 pm »

Quote from: the_doc on July 19, 2018, 05:41:15 pm

The following link is an article that will shock a lot of people, but it may partially explain why Trump is receptive to improved relations with Putin:

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/vladimir-putin-the-new-world-order-worships-satan/

Whether or not Putin and Trump are genuine Christians, they are both religious traditionalists in a serious war against the Global Deep State, AKA the New World Order.

I suspect Putin has had a change of heart years ago re Christ etc. He's been fiercely protective of Christians for some time now.

Time will tell. It is well and good he is against the NWO.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2018, 07:32:20 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on July 19, 2018, 06:23:32 pm

I find these type of article full of bulls**t. Putin is not a friend. Also not a defender of Christianity.

Any factual bases, or citations, for your stated opinion?

Absent that, your posting style lacks depth, weight or persuasiveness.

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2018, 07:47:12 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 19, 2018, 07:32:20 pm

Any factual bases, or citations, for your stated opinion?

Absent that, your posting style lacks depth, weight or persuasiveness.

Can't really trust former heads of the KGB and helping various Islamic Countries like Iran..

dfwgator · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2018, 07:54:18 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on July 19, 2018, 07:47:12 pm

Can't really trust former heads of the KGB and helping various Islamic Countries like Iran..

And Merkel was in the FDJ, what's your point?

the_doc · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2018, 08:34:00 pm »

@kevindavis

Quote from: kevindavis on July 19, 2018, 07:47:12 pm

Can't really trust former heads of the KGB and helping various Islamic Countries like Iran..

Well, there is that. (I, for one, would never trust Putin very far. But heck, I don't even trust Trump to do the right thing in every instance.)

Aside to @dfwgator: I didn't know about Merkel's background beyond the rumors that she is a neo-Nazi of some sort. But I would say Merkel might be less trustworthy than Putin. (Merkel is obviously a toadie of the "NWO." At least Putin speaks out openly against the NWO.)

truth_seeker · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2018, 08:59:13 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on July 19, 2018, 07:47:12 pm

Can't really trust former heads of the KGB and helping various Islamic Countries like Iran..

Yet when vital, Joseph Stalin was our ally. We had economic cooperation following WWII until the Cold War. For example we
helped them with oil field technology and equipment.

Today we share with Russia, risks with Radical Islam. If we operated together against it, we might both benefit greatly.

I believe Trump aims to de-escalate tensions with the Islamic world, if possible. It may be underway already, with Saudi Arabia. Iran is a major problem, so also an opportunity.

Finally Reagan negotiated with the USSR. And he coined phrases like "Peace through strength" and "Trust but Verify"

Trump subscribes to those strategies and tactics.

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2018, 12:19:37 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 19, 2018, 08:59:13 pm

Yet when vital, Joseph Stalin was our ally. We had economic cooperation following WWII until the Cold War. For example we
helped them with oil field technology and equipment.

Today we share with Russia, risks with Radical Islam. If we operated together against it, we might both benefit greatly.

I believe Trump aims to de-escalate tensions with the Islamic world, if possible. It may be underway already, with Saudi Arabia. Iran is a major problem, so also an opportunity.

Finally Reagan negotiated with the USSR. And he coined phrases like "Peace through strength" and "Trust but Verify"

Trump subscribes to those strategies and tactics.

Stalin was an ally with Hitler at one time

Vlad Putin is helping regimes like Iran and Syria. Both Islamic Countries. How can he be fighting Islamic terror when he is helping countries that is supporting Islamic Terror!

Explain that!

To-Whose-Benefit? · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:50:43 am »

Vlad's faith isn't the issue.

Russia today is more a Mafia style of Govt than it is Godless Communism.

Would the American Mafia have tried to get rid of the church? Of course not.

It took the Communists long enough to figure it out but Running the country was a lot easier without expecting everyone to become an atheist.

And with that old school Marxist/Leninist Communism morphed into Mafia ism.

Chosen Daughter · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2018, 06:01:53 am »

I don't know about this, but I know Trump and many other politicians including Bush have been seen making Satanic symbols.

Chosen Daughter · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2018, 06:09:39 am »

No religious freedom in Russia

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2018, 10:32:19 am »

This has all the checkmarks for a kook thread.

Silver Pines · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:24:45 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 19, 2018, 07:32:20 pm

Any factual bases, or citations, for your stated opinion?

Absent that, your posting style lacks depth, weight or persuasiveness.

@truth_seeker

He has his opponents executed.

Howâ€™s that?

Silver Pines · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:27:26 pm »

Quote from: Quix on July 19, 2018, 07:16:57 pm

I suspect Putin has had a change of heart years ago re Christ etc. He's been fiercely protective of Christians for some time now.

Time will tell. It is well and good he is against the NWO.

@Quix

He hasnâ€™t stopped killing people who cross him so I donâ€™t know which Christ that might be.

Quix · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:48:07 pm »

Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 21, 2018, 02:27:26 pm

@Quix

He hasnâ€™t stopped killing people who cross him so I donâ€™t know which Christ that might be.

You may be right.
You may be wrong.

I don't know how to be certain one way or the other.

And, I do not know where on his Christian growth trek he happens to be at this time.

skeeter · « **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:52:48 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on July 19, 2018, 06:23:32 pm

I find these type of article full of bulls**t. Putin is not a friend. Also not a defender of Christianity.

Yeah, this isn't the way to defend or explain Trump's Russia policy.

Its enough that Putin has alot of nukes - its better if we have good relations with him.

Last night I heard Russia's economy is the size of Italy's, and that China's cyberwarfare apparatus makes Russia's look pathetically small by comparison. China is the real threat, we shouldn't allow them to get close to Russia.

To-Whose-Benefit? · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:55:43 pm »

Quote from: skeeter on July 21, 2018, 02:52:48 pm

Yeah, this isn't the way to defend or explain Trump's Russia policy.

Its enough that Putin has alot of nukes - its better if we have good relations with him.

Last night I heard Russia's economy is the size of Italy's, and that China's cyberwarfare apparatus makes Russia's look pathetically small by comparison. China is the real threat, we shouldn't allow them to get close to Russia.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/trump-threatens-putting-tariffs-on-all-imports-from-china/

Do it.

XenaLee · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:59:18 pm »

Quote from: skeeter on July 21, 2018, 02:52:48 pm

Yeah, this isn't the way to defend or explain Trump's Russia policy.

Its enough that Putin has alot of nukes - its better if we have good relations with him.

Last night I heard Russia's economy is the size of Italy's, and that China's cyberwarfare apparatus makes Russia's look pathetically small by comparison. China is the real threat, we shouldn't allow them to get close to Russia.

Spot-on.

TomSea · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2018, 03:01:29 pm »

It's a bit like the editorial I posted the other day.

Sure, Putin is a brut; but consider how long and how ruthless some leaders of Russia/the USSR have been. At least Stalin and I think Lenin too; in that article, they mention Ivan the Terrible, if he was that terrible seems to be up to debate but we get the general picture.

In dealing with North Korea, we are dealing with a regime that has cracked down on its people brutally for at least 65 years, things can't change overnight.

skeeter · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2018, 03:02:10 pm »

Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on July 21, 2018, 02:55:43 pm

https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/trump-threatens-putting-tariffs-on-all-imports-from-china/

Do it.

According to Chinese social media there's quiet alot of hair pulling going on over the trade situation with the US. Anxiety level is currently turned up to 11.

TomSea · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2018, 03:03:48 pm »

The latest news is that Russia's birthrate has taken a dive again. It is possible and worth considering, the Muslim population could surpass the ethnic Russian Christian population. A lot is written on that including the percentage of Muslims in the Russian military.

Silver Pines · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2018, 03:47:43 pm »

Quote from: Quix on July 21, 2018, 02:48:07 pm

You may be right.
You may be wrong.

I don't know how to be certain one way or the other.

And, I do not know where on his Christian growth trek he happens to be at this time.

@Quix

It's not whether I'm right or not. It's fact. His opponents end up dead.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2018, 03:55:28 pm »

Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 21, 2018, 02:24:45 pm

@truth_seeker

He has his opponents executed.

Howâ€™s that?

Not persuasive. When FDR and Churchill allied with the USSR, they set in motion a situation whereby they saved MILLIONS of allied soldiers. Namely they let the Russians die, not Americans and Brits.

William Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" would be a great reference.

Eisenhower let the USSR dash to take Berlin first, knowing they would suffer huge losses, which we largely avoided.

In Putin's case, he is in conformity with his nation-cultural norms, just as are the leaders of China, N. Kores, Saudi Arabia, etc.

The US would be very lonely indeed, if it restricted negotiations to only "Constitutional, Christian" leaders and governments

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