Author Topic: Am I The Only Person Who Didn’t Care About Trump’s Russia Statement?  (Read 3319 times)

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Putin's history includes a long timeline that comes all the way to Putin's present.  I have never seen even a blip of remorse on Putin's part in the past or the present.  But if you re-read my post, you will see that what Putin did even five seconds ago is irrelevant to the point I was making.  Remember: I have never said that Putin is a good guy. 

Perhaps Putin thinks that his recent diatribes against the overt Satanism that characterizes the Globalist Cabal will cover his sins.  (His diatribes won't redeem him, of course.  But it is still useful for us to know that Putin really has worked himself up into a hatred of the Global Deep State that America is struggling against.)

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I don't buy into the globalist-deep state-Satan worshiping-child eating conspiracies.

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It's not if you faint but if you melt when reaching the ground.   ^-^

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So you are one of the three non famous live people there. Good to know.

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I don't buy into the globalist-deep state-Satan worshiping-child eating conspiracies.

Oh, I already figured that out.  Get ready for a big shock well before year-end.  (You will surely wind up thanking me for having forewarned you even if you scoffed at me. :whistle:)

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It's just the same old line.  A) Nothing matters because the Clintons or Obama did it, too, and B) Hillary.

Point is.... Trump is NOT doing it.  Right?
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@the_doc

I don't buy into the globalist-deep state-Satan worshiping-child eating conspiracies.

It's not even the issue.... that they are "Satan worshippers".   Do you not buy into the FACT that these  leftists (that are globalist, one world order, open borders radicals) are anti-Christian and ie are anti-God?  If you deny that, then you really are.... literally.... denying reality.
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It's not even the issue.... that they are "Satan worshippers".   Do you not buy into the FACT that these  leftists (that are globalist, one world order, open borders radicals) are anti-Christian and ie are anti-God?  If you deny that, then you really are.... literally.... denying reality.

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I don't particularly care about it, either.

Time to move on to the next outrage of the week...

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A President can't refuse to speak with World leaders because they are brutal.  That's the kind of reasoning that got Jimmy Carter to give Iran to the Mullahs.

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That was never the issue.

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That was never the issue.

This late in the "discussion," I've lost sight of what the issue is.  I thought we were toying with the "Putin kills people, so the President of this country should not be legitimizing him by talking to him" argument.  We heard that when he had a Summit with Kim Jong Idiot.

Sorry.
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President Putin and I have just concluded two hours of straightforward and productive meetings. We had a good discussion of our views of Russian-American relations and of the changing world at the beginnings of this new century. Our countries have common interests, and we share great responsibilities.

My meeting with President Putin today is an important step in building a constructive, respectful relationship with Russia, a relationship that has the potential to benefit not only our two countries, but also the world. Russia is an important country with vast potential. When Russia and the United States work together in a constructive way, we can make the world a safer and more prosperous place.

I enjoyed the opportunity to meet President Putin in person for the first time. I am convinced that he and I can build a relationship of mutual respect and candor, and I am convinced that it is important for the world that we do so.

More than a decade after the Cold War ended, it is time to move beyond suspicion and toward straight talk, beyond mutually assured destruction and toward mutually earned respect. As we work together to address the world as it is, not as it used to be, it is important that we not only talk differently, we also must act differently.

We have great opportunities to cooperate on economic, commercial, regional and security issues. President Putin and I have agreed to launch an extensive dialogue about a wide range of issues that we can constructively address together.

We also discussed the importance of a sound investment climate to improve Russia's future economic prosperity. I was so impressed that he was able to simplify his tax code in Russia with a flat tax. I'm not so sure I'll have the same success with our Congress.

We must continue a dialogue, so I am prepared to send both Secretary O'Neill and Secretary Evans to Moscow soon to further our discussions. I want to encourage Russian and American businesses to become more involved in our discussions so that together we can foster meaningful investments. President Putin agrees with this approach.

And we've agreed to launch regular, detailed and serious consultations on the nature of our security relationship.

I said to President Putin that we need a new approach for a new era, an approach that protects both our peoples and strengthens deterrence by exploring and developing a new attitude towards defenses in missile defenses. I directed the Secretary of State Powell and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to work with their Russian counterparts to begin discussing a new security framework. I have invited President Putin to Washington this fall; he accepted. He invited me to Russia, and I accepted, and I look forward to the visit.

We also agreed to continue our cooperation and work toward common solutions on important regional issues, from the Balkans to Nagorno- Karabakh to Afghanistan. And we discussed our common interests in developing the energy resources of the Caspian Basin in a way that benefits all the countries of the region.

Respectful relations require honesty, and we did discuss areas where my country has differences with Russia: over Chechyna, over media relations. I also expressed my hope that Russia will develop constructive relations with its neighbors, like Georgia, that are trying to find their own way in a challenging but hopeful world.

This was a very good meeting, and I look forward to my next meeting with President Putin in July. I very much enjoyed our time together. He's an honest, straightforward man who loves his country. He loves his family. We share a lot of values. I view him as a remarkable leader. I believe his leadership will serve Russia well. Russia and America have the opportunity to accomplish much together. We should seize it, and today we have begun.

And finally, I'm especially pleased we were able to have this meeting in Slovenia, one of the success stories of southeast Europe.

In my meetings today with the president and the prime minister, I reaffirmed America's support for Slovenia's integration with Europe and the Euro-Atlantic community.

I especially thank the people of Slovenia, and I want to thank the leadership for such warm hospitality and congratulate the people on the 10th anniversary of its independence on June 25. I only regret not staying long enough to see Lake Bled or to climb Mount Triglav. Who knows, maybe I will have the opportunity down the road.

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As Selena Zito has said, take what Trump says seriously but not literally.

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This late in the "discussion," I've lost sight of what the issue is.  I thought we were toying with the "Putin kills people, so the President of this country should not be legitimizing him by talking to him" argument.  We heard that when he had a Summit with Kim Jong Idiot.

Sorry.

It's the olde double standard of the leftists, CL.  Yeah, we all know that Putin is a lying, KGB thug.  So they use that to bash Trump for meeting with Putin so they can claim "collusion" with an enemy nation.   But which president was it that really colluded and normalized relations with a commie thug?   That was Obama re: Castro's Cuba.  Double standard.

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As Selena Zito has said, take what Trump says seriously but not literally.

So... not fake but inaccurate?    :laugh:
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Oh, I already figured that out.  Get ready for a big shock well before year-end.  (You will surely wind up thanking me for having forewarned you even if you scoffed at me. :whistle:)

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No doubt.  I’m sure it will have something to do with the secret message in the soccer ball. 

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No doubt.  I’m sure it will have something to do with the secret message in the soccer ball.

Great rejoinder, friend!

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I don't know. Weren't you involved in that messy Flip Flop/Jeans flap on the FLOTUS thread?

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    It might be time for one of you other Gentleman Briefers to step up and relieve @Frank Cannon from his Flotus duties.
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    It might be time for one of you other Gentleman Briefers to step up and relieve @Frank Cannon from his Flotus duties.

Like hell. There isn't a dude here qualified to handle the topic or the broads on that FLOTUS thread. A) I have a Niemans card. B) I circulate with and know how to handle "Bitches".

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Great rejoinder, friend!

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 Well, where’s the lie?   The soccer ball was put forth as an avenue of secret communication by those who believe Putin is battling Satanist cabals, and that Hillary Clinton’s health issues are the result of cannibalism.  So I just stated a fact.  Right?