America Is Over, But I Won’t See It Go Without An Epic Fight

[mountaineer]

America Is Over, But I Won’t See It Go Without An Epic Fight
Barring some unforeseen awakening, America is heading for an eventual socialist abyss. But I’m not letting it go down without a fight.
Jesse Kelly
The Federalist

...    We haven’t seen our government shrink since Calvin Coolidge, and there is little appetite among the American public for shrinking the government. We are now at the point in this country where we call them “cuts” if the government doesn’t increase spending quite as much as they had planned.

As government gets bigger, freedom must get smaller. Larger government, even when under the rule of supposed Republicans, is a leftist’s dream. Every day brings a new story about the infestation of liberalism in the federal bureaucracy. Such is the way of the world.

So, barring some unforeseen awakening, America is heading for an eventual socialist abyss. It is really only a matter of dates. Will we all die in the inevitable communist purges within ten years? Of course not. Will it happen within the next century or two? Almost certainly.  ...

Read entire essay at The Federalist

[WingNot]

As government gets bigger, freedom must get smaller.

 

[Free Vulcan]

Not a socialist abyss. Bankruptcy, breakup, and financial hard times.

[XenaLee]

Not a socialist abyss. Bankruptcy, breakup, and financial hard times.

And.... possibly another civil war. 

Look around.  The hatred spewing from the left is only ramping up.  It will get worse.... until it finally boils over.  They (the radical leftists) want anarchy.  They even seek violence.  I suspect they'll get  it.  Only.. not exactly how they wanted it.

[INVAR]

Not a socialist abyss. Bankruptcy, breakup, and financial hard times.

IOW, Collapse. 

FWIW, America does not exist in any meaningful capacity when the curtain goes up at the end of the Age, the time described in the book of Revelation and other prophetic books. 

[dfwgator]

Not a socialist abyss. Bankruptcy, breakup, and financial hard times.

Demographics is Destiny.

[mountaineer]

And.... possibly another civil war. 

Look around.  The hatred spewing from the left is only ramping up.  It will get worse.... until it finally boils over.  They (the radical leftists) want anarchy.  They even seek violence.  I suspect they'll get  it.  Only.. not exactly how they wanted it.

I fear you're correct. They (and I'm thinking mostly of the antifa/#resist younger crowd) are utterly irrational, full of hate, self-absorbed, easily manipulated and completely ignorant of morality. In their world, there's nothing wrong with harassing a woman eating dinner in a restaurant just because they don't like her boss, or publishing the home addresses of certain government employees and encouraging others to harm those people and their children, just because they don't like the job these people are required to do.

[Free Vulcan]

Demographics is Destiny.

Yep. And for us interior states with different demographics, we are very much ready to tell the bi-coastal socialists to shove off.

[roamer_1]

IOW, Collapse. 

FWIW, America does not exist in any meaningful capacity when the curtain goes up at the end of the Age, the time described in the book of Revelation and other prophetic books.

@INVAR
I would challenge that. But you'll have to come on up and sit on my porch for a few days to have that particular argument...

[INVAR]

I fear you're correct. They (and I'm thinking mostely of the antifa/#resist younger crowd) are utterly irrational, full of hate, self-absorbed, easily manipulated and completely ignorant of morality. In their world, there's nothing wrong with harassing a woman eating dinner in a restaurant just because they don't like her boss, or publishing the home addresses of certain government employees and encouraging others to harm those people and their children, just because they don't like the job these people are required to do.

All of that is evidence of the fact that the society and civil compact is unravelling and the foundational structure is beginning to come apart.

There is no fixing this once a society and civilization reaches this point.  The unravelling speeds up and instigates further fracturing along violent lines.  It is here when a people will embrace a hard-line fist of totalitarianism to bring about a promise of order and life returning to 'normal'.

[INVAR]

@INVAR
I would challenge that. But you'll have to come on up and sit on my porch for a few days to have that particular argument...

No need to argue.  It's not a salvational issue.

[roamer_1]

No need to argue.  It's not a salvational issue.

I meant an argument in the classic sense.

[dfwgator]

I meant an argument in the classic sense.

It's not an argument, it's merely contradiction.

[roamer_1]

It's not an argument, it's merely contradiction.

~whatever~
My thinking on the subject wrt America in Prophecy is more than would be comfortable to write down hereon.

But there is yet a way. Only one way. And if true, 'manifest destiny' meant way more than we ever thought it did.

[INVAR]

~whatever~
My thinking on the subject wrt America in Prophecy is more than would be comfortable to write down hereon.

But there is yet a way. Only one way. And if true, 'manifest destiny' meant way more than we ever thought it did.

Well without going into detail, I am of the understanding that our physical prophetic destiny will mirror that of Ancient Israel at their end.

[skeeter]

Not a socialist abyss. Bankruptcy, breakup, and financial hard times.

In other words, Brazil is what we can look forward to.

[Free Vulcan]

In other words, Brazil is what we can look forward to.

And hopefully not Venezuela. Or Zimbabwe.

[roamer_1]

Well without going into detail, I am of the understanding that our physical prophetic destiny will mirror that of Ancient Israel at their end.

We are probably close in that. But the House of Israel has lands and armies, and participates in the end time battles... Ephraim leaps for joy in the islands at the revealing of the Lord in battle... Ephraim understands what is happening.

There is a way, as I said. And that way is a hope for me, and why I will not give up on national repentance. But the way forward is grim, no matter what.

[INVAR]

And that way is a hope for me, and why I will not give up on national repentance.

At this point, even in the churches, that is only going to happen in the time of severe trial and persecution.

Right now I cannot even speak of repentance in the churches without causing a fuss among the brethren or their church leadership.  The health/wealth gospel is pretty much the only thing motivating a good portion of mainstream Churchianity.

[roamer_1]

At this point, even in the churches, that is only going to happen in the time of severe trial and persecution.

Right now I cannot even speak of repentance in the churches without causing a fuss among the brethren or their church leadership.  The health/wealth gospel is pretty much the only thing motivating a good portion of mainstream Churchianity.

That's all right... and alright. Severe adversity is in the cards. It is what happens in that adversity that matters - and I pray that America finds her soul.

[INVAR]

That's all right... and alright. Severe adversity is in the cards. It is what happens in that adversity that matters - and I pray that America finds her soul.

As I have witnessed, a persecuted church is a church that grows.

At best the church in the USA is lukewarm, it's adherents saying they are rich and have need of nothing except more wealth.

Pitiful. Poor. Blind. Naked.

And we do not see it.

So, purchasing gold refined in fire is our next best hope.

[dfwgator]

At this point, even in the churches, that is only going to happen in the time of severe trial and persecution.

Right now I cannot even speak of repentance in the churches without causing a fuss among the brethren or their church leadership.  The health/wealth gospel is pretty much the only thing motivating a good portion of mainstream Churchianity.

The Left pretty much has all the Churches now, just look at Bergoglio.

[mountaineer]

Interesting you would mention the church. I'm reading a book by Charles Colson, "The Body," which helps dispel some of the wrong ideas about what the church means or really is. I will read it in the context of this discussion, just for my own edification.

[Fishrrman]

Free Vulcan wrote:
"Yep. And for us interior states with different demographics, we are very much ready to tell the bi-coastal socialists to shove off."

Once again, two books by Kurt Schlichter that deal with this subject:
Indian Country
People's Republic

Both "can be found" on the net, if you're willing to "do a little diggin'" ...