Author Topic: Laura Bush: Separating children from their parents at the border ‘breaks my heart’  (Read 19791 times)

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Offline WingNot

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Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.  We don't typically rip families apart for misdemeanors.

Don't forget: Illegal immigrants are deportable under Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: "Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable."

So it is not your usual everyday american citezen charged with a "misdemeanor".
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I hate to pile on.  Well actually I do, but in this case I concur. Once left us some time ago.  I wish him well in his new skin.
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Trump thinks kidnapping children is a great deterrent.  We will see.

Why don't you bless us with some Noam Chomsky quotes while you are at it.

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This is the nugget that pisses me off the most.

Yep!  That was wrong but it's been over 75 years ago.  The separated children are placed in clean, attractive dorm rooms and treated well.  When they are returned to their parents, they are probably saying, Mommy, can't I go back to that fun place?
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@corbe   At least spell her name right.  Melania did not agree with Laura.  Her statement was for compassion but not open borders.  You either have border control or you don't.


  Hell @Emjay the guy that married her can't even spell her name right, on occasion, why are you busting my balls?
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  Hell @Emjay the guy that married her can't even spell her name right, on occasion, why are you busting my balls?

Once again showing that no remark is too infantile to make if its directed at Trump and made by a NT.
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  Hell @Emjay the guy that married her can't even spell her name right, on occasion, why are you busting my balls?

I find it Ironic, a girl busting your balls.
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   Even the 'Classical' NT'ers here think I'm a Joke, don't play into their fears @driftdiver.
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This issue resonates with Christians who have been supplanted by the alt-right in the GOP.  Every picture of a crying child on the border will cost GOP votes, because some Republicans still have human emotions.

You have accidentally stumbled onto a sad truth.  If people can be wrongly convinced that children are being systematically abused, they don't like it.  And with the media pounding it, how many look for the real truth of the situation.

The truth is that the parents are knowingly putting their children into a situation in which the children have to be separated and kept safe.  The children are probably better housed and fed than they have been in their whole lives.
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I find it Ironic, a girl busting your balls.

   They do it all the time, especially @Emjay.
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Please don't tell me what I believe.  EVERY and yes, I mean EVERY immigrant entering into this country ILLEGALLY IS indeed ILLEGAL.  I didn't say that they were all evil.  They are ILLEGAL.  They should be forbidden from entering this country period; children included.  That's why a border wall is needed. 

Those that are already here, if caught, should be deported.  NO perks.  NO benefits. NO jobs.  NO medical.  Deportation period.  I don't care how educated or uneducated they are; they are still illegal.  Deport them.

@libertybele   Hey, you are one tough gal and I totally agree with you.

This is not about judging people ... it is about maintaining a sovereign nation and protecting our borders.
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You have accidentally stumbled onto a sad truth.  If people can be wrongly convinced that children are being systematically abused, they don't like it.  And with the media pounding it, how many look for the real truth of the situation.

The truth is that the parents are knowingly putting their children into a situation in which the children have to be separated and kept safe.  The children are probably better housed and fed than they have been in their whole lives.

@Emjay
I disagree, most Americans realize that even if the cage picture were true it would still be a vast improvement over where those kids came from.  At least they are safe and not being beaten or raped.

But unfortunately that was an Obama era pic, today they are housed in dorms with all kinds of fun stuff to do.
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The truth is that the parents are knowingly putting their children into a situation in which the children have to be separated and kept safe.  The children are probably better housed and fed than they have been in their whole lives.

Meanwhile the media paints a picture that it's even worse than Auschwitz.

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They've been doing it for years....

Remember this picture?




The picture that fooled the world
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/LIE/BOSNIA_PHOTO/bosnia.html

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I disagree, most Americans realize that even if the cage picture were true it would still be a vast improvement over where those kids came from.  At least they are safe and not being beaten or raped.

But unfortunately that was an Obama era pic, today they are housed in dorms with all kinds of fun stuff to do.

@driftdiver   I hope you're right but this is an emotional issue that seems to have resonated with people. 

You and most people here realize that these children are well-housed, well-fed and well treated but the media has glommed onto this issue and will ride it till it drops.
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@Emjay
I disagree, most Americans realize that even if the cage picture were true it would still be a vast improvement over where those kids came from. 

They’re not cages, they’re freedom spaces demarcated by patriot wire

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They’re not cages, they’re freedom spaces demarcated by patriot wire

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You're folks are the ones that called 'em cages
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You're folks are the ones that called 'em cages
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I quoted you "cage picture."  Why can't you follow a conversation?

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They’re not cages, they’re freedom spaces demarcated by patriot wire

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It's sweet of you to be concerned about my credibility @skeeter .

Trump is kidnapping children? Really?

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Trump is kidnapping children? Really?

Yes, and throwing them in concentration camps.  Keep up, Skeeter.

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Yes, and throwing them in concentration camps.  Keep up, Skeeter.

...and firing their parents off into the sun.

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Yes, and throwing them in concentration camps.  Keep up, Skeeter.

And using their skin for lampshades.

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...and firing their parents off into the sun.

Mama always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun
But mama, that's where the fun is.
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Mama always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun
But mama, that's where the fun is.

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