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Victoria, no, we don't know what is in her heart.  We can only judge her actions based on her past actions.  And, those don't leave much room for good.
@Sanguine

Interesting you say, "based on her past actions" as that as that is what I have said about Trump and I always get shot down for saying that.  "Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior."  We in the human behavior business know this.  The question is, what behavior are we evaluating?  With Trump, I have spoken about his lying behavior in the past and his attacking other people in the past - that is his prior behavior all his life.  So, we have to determine what behavior of Hillary Clinton we are addressing.  Is her every act criminal and/or would she go to an event without being paid because it is someone she personally knows, and/or does she have any goodness at all in her heart?

I have read a biography of her life, her family life since being a small child, to adulthood and through her education and work she did after graduation, before she and Bill got together; the book was written by someone who has known her all her life.  Her father was of the ilk that women are wives and work in the kitchen and don't need education past high school.  It was her mother who insisted she go to college.

She resisted Bill Clinton's idea of geting married and wasn't married to him for his first term as governor, but they were together and that caused a lot of talk in the public arena.  He wasn't relelected after his first term.  She married him and put together a campaign for him and he was elected again and again.  Without her smarts, he would not have been governor again. 

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I read why she went there - a friend's granddaughter was in the group so she went to this.
Perhaps she did it without being paid since it was the granddaughter of a friend.  Every time she goes somewhere for the rest of her life, it will be reported with prejudice, no good in it found.

When it comes to Hillary Clinton this is too kind.

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@Sanguine

Interesting you say, "based on her past actions" as that as that is what I have said about Trump and I always get shot down for saying that.  "Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior."  We in the human behavior business know this.  The question is, what behavior are we evaluating?  With Trump, I have spoken about his lying behavior in the past and his attacking other people in the past - that is his prior behavior all his life.  So, we have to determine what behavior of Hillary Clinton we are addressing.  Is her every act criminal and/or would she go to an event without being paid because it is someone she personally knows, and/or does she have any goodness at all in her heart?

I have read a biography of her life, her family life since being a small child, to adulthood and through her education and work she did after graduation, before she and Bill got together; the book was written by someone who has known her all her life.  Her father was of the ilk that women are wives and work in the kitchen and don't need education past high school.  It was her mother who insisted she go to college.

She resisted Bill Clinton's idea of geting married and wasn't married to him for his first term as governor, but they were together and that caused a lot of talk in the public arena.  He wasn't relelected after his first term.  She married him and put together a campaign for him and he was elected again and again.  Without her smarts, he would not have been governor again.

Victoria, there are a number of similarities between Trump and Clinton, but there are some significant differences.  You know I was not, and in some cases still aren't a Trump fan.  His personal life has been less than stellar. 

That recent Daniel Greenfield piece did a great job of explaining what Trump is doing.  Unfortunately, for Mrs. Clinton, almost everything she has said can be shown to be untrue, and her actions have not resulted in good.  Judge by the fruits. 

(And, a biography?  Obviously, it put her in a good light.  Is that reality?)
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Some time ago, I read what money from her foundation did in Haiti.  I remember money went to a big company that was shut down due to damage and the money went to get the company open again so people could go to work. I don't remember houses being built.  I'll look that up again to see how the money was used.  I don't doubt that some of the money donated for that was misused; that happens all the time with donated money.  I also don't know if Hillary herself was involved in that - seems to me I remember it was Bill Clinton mainly who went there.  I'll get back to you on this, likely privately.

Funny I always heard about the immense corruption involved with the Haiti fund.  Like how it paid for Chelsea's 30,000 wedding dress
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Victoria, there are a number of similarities between Trump and Clinton, but there are some significant differences.  You know I was not, and in some cases still aren't a Trump fan.  His personal life has been less than stellar. 

That recent Daniel Greenfield piece did a great job of explaining what Trump is doing.  Unfortunately, for Mrs. Clinton, almost everything she has said can be shown to be untrue, and her actions have not resulted in good.  Judge by the fruits. 

(And, a biography?  Obviously, it put her in a good light.  Is that reality?)

Comey's Autobiography is also turning out to be pure BS, too.
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I remember when Hillary told us that they left the White house completely broke and destitute. 
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She has a heart?  Who knew?

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Ok,prove me wrong by naming two good things she is known to have done that she wasn't paid to do.
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@Sanguine

Interesting you say, "based on her past actions" as that as that is what I have said about Trump and I always get shot down for saying that.  "Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior."  We in the human behavior business know this.  The question is, what behavior are we evaluating?  With Trump, I have spoken about his lying behavior in the past and his attacking other people in the past - that is his prior behavior all his life.  So, we have to determine what behavior of Hillary Clinton we are addressing.  Is her every act criminal and/or would she go to an event without being paid because it is someone she personally knows, and/or does she have any goodness at all in her heart?

I have read a biography of her life, her family life since being a small child, to adulthood and through her education and work she did after graduation, before she and Bill got together; the book was written by someone who has known her all her life.  Her father was of the ilk that women are wives and work in the kitchen and don't need education past high school.  It was her mother who insisted she go to college.

She resisted Bill Clinton's idea of geting married and wasn't married to him for his first term as governor, but they were together and that caused a lot of talk in the public arena.  He wasn't relelected after his first term.  She married him and put together a campaign for him and he was elected again and again.  Without her smarts, he would not have been governor again. 
from Wikipediai:  "her father, who was otherwise a traditionalist, felt that his daughter's abilities and opportunities should not be limited by gender."
So, from the article,  it appeared her father encouraged her past high school. He was by all accounts a tough, gruff person, but he did encourage her ambitions. He, being a staunch Barry Goldwater-tyoe conservative, didn't like her getting in with the Dems.

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We in the human behavior business know this.

Middle school guidance counselor classifies?

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@dfwgator

Ok,prove me wrong by naming two good things she is known to have done that she wasn't paid to do.

She had sex with Webster Hubbell.

Oh wait, She might have been paid for that?


 
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I remember when Hillary told us that they left the White house completely broke and destitute.

I remember when Hillary claimed that she was under sniper fire in Bosnia.  She always either can't recall or she "misspoke", according to her ""always innocent" Clintonista rhetoric.  To those of us with common sense and the powers of observation over decades of her/their behavior....

she AND her little dog Bubba are serial liars.  The Democrats know it too, but don't care.... since lying is a job requirement for their party and movement.
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Perhaps she did it without being paid since it was the granddaughter of a friend. 
That friend is Susie Tompkins Buell. She met Bill Clinton when he was running for president. She was so impressed, she wrote a check for $100,000.  A little more about her:
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... The donation to Clinton might have been a one-off but for the relationship that bloomed when Hillary Clinton approached Buell to personally thank her. The women clicked immediately, and Buell grew more enamored when she saw Clinton deliver an impassioned Mother's Day address at Glide Memorial Church, a hotbed of leftist activism in San Francisco's Tenderloin district.

"I was attracted to Bill Clinton, but as soon as I met Hillary, it was much deeper for me," she said.   :pondering:

Buell hasn't stopped giving to the Clintons since. More than $15 million has made its way from Buell's bank account to the campaigns and causes of the Clintons. Untold millions more have been raised by her, often at her gorgeous Pacific Heights penthouse apartment, a mandatory stop on the fundraising circuit for prominent liberals.  ...

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That friend is Susie Tompkins Buell. She met Bill Clinton when he was running for president. She was so impressed, she wrote a check for $100,000.  A little more about her:
More at L.A. Times

Ah.  Now it makes sense.

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Ah.  Now it makes sense.

Somehow I knew there had to be a seven-digit sum involved.

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Only 15 million?  Man that is chump change for the grifters clinton.   

But still. 
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It was early training for when she came under sniper fire in Bosnia and she saved the entire flight crew and passengers.

Exactly what I was thinking, but before that thought...

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Ah.  Now it makes sense.

"In 2016, Tompkins Buell donated $500,000 to lawyer Lisa Bloom's firm in order to assist women who came forward with sexual harassment and assault allegations against Donald Trump leading up to the 2016 presidential election."

I knew I had heard of this chick before.

Now I remember.  LOL!

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"In 2016, Tompkins Buell donated $500,000 to lawyer Lisa Bloom's firm in order to assist women who came forward with sexual harassment and assault allegations against Donald Trump leading up to the 2016 presidential election."

I knew I had heard of this chick before.

Now I remember.  LOL!


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Lisa Bloom..... Gloria Alreds evil spawn?
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Lisa Bloom..... Gloria Alreds evil spawn?

Yup .. the one and only.

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Lisa Bloom..... Gloria Alreds evil spawn?

Oh, yeah!

And I remember Gloria All Blue from court cases.  She began as an "ambulance chaser."  Did quite well for herself and her spam.

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Oh, yeah!

And I remember Gloria All Blue from court cases.  She began as an "ambulance chaser."  Did quite well for herself and her spam.

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Spam... Did she sue Hormel?
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Oh, and then after her ambulance chasing days, she went on to cases de jour.  That is where she made her big bucks.  She was great with her arguments.  Gotta give her that...  Arrgghhhh!
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Spam... Did she sue Hormel?

One company I do not believe she sued.  But darn near any firm with deep pockets was under her watchful eye.

Never trusted that hog dog.

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