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Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« on: May 26, 2018, 12:59:45 pm »
Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
Paul Driessen

Posted: May 26, 2018 12:01 AM

President Trump may not block even rude or obnoxious criticism from his Twitter account, because it is a public forum that is protected by the First Amendment, US District Court Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald has ruled. The President’s use of his Twitter account to comment on important policy, personnel and personal announcements made it a public forum, akin to a park or town square, she concluded.

Blocking unwanted tweets is thus viewpoint discrimination, which public officials are not permitted to engage in. Indeed, his Twitter account is not just a public forum. It is also “government space,” and thus may not be closed off, Judge Buchwald continued – rejecting a Justice Department argument that, since Twitter is a public company, it is beyond the reach of First Amendment public forum rules.

Free speech proponents hailed the ruling as a groundbreaking decision, saying it expands constitutional protections deep within the realms of social media. The executive director of Georgetown Law School’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection called it “a critical victory in preserving free speech in the digital age.” Blocking people from responding critically to presidential tweets is unconstitutional, because it prevents them from participating personally and directly in that forum, others said. 

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2018, 01:19:22 pm »
The judge need to write a legal definition of 'Public Forum' to go with this ruling. Her ruling could be interpreted as any business, or library, or any public office, is not allowed to block anyone including even Twitter itself.
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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2018, 02:46:13 pm »
So, is TBR a public forum, in this judge's definition?

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2018, 03:25:42 pm »
So, is TBR a public forum, in this judge's definition?

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2018, 05:10:46 pm »
  The Group of US on someone's IGNORE List need to file a Class Action Lawsuit w/punitive damages. 
  These people must be made to read our dribble.
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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 05:23:03 pm »
  The Group of US on someone's IGNORE List need to file a Class Action Lawsuit w/punitive damages. 
  These people must be made to read our dribble.

*drivel.

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2018, 05:23:46 pm »
I want everyone of my bans overturned!  NOW

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Oh, shaddap.... :laugh: :dx1:
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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 05:27:59 pm »
*drivel.

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Oh, I thought he was describing one of those late night after-too-many-adult-beverages screeds. 

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 05:29:25 pm »
I want everyone of my bans overturned!  NOW

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2018, 05:31:28 pm »
So, is TBR a public forum, in this judge's definition?

No, the judge very specifically addressed this in section B of the ruling. Because the account was paid for with federal dollars (through WH staff manning it) and it the registration was changed to 'the official account of the president' that's what made the specific account fall under this classification, it was not a general statement.

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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 05:35:18 pm »
No, the judge very specifically addressed this in section B of the ruling. Because the account was paid for with federal dollars (through WH staff manning it) and it the registration was changed to 'the official account of the president' that's what made the specific account fall under this classification, it was not a general statement.

Oh, good.  And, that actually makes some sense.

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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2018, 05:41:18 pm »
Oh, good.  And, that actually makes some sense.

If that is the case I can keep up my secret campaign the management here to have you banned? Awesome.

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2018, 05:45:17 pm »
Oh, good.  And, that actually makes some sense.

The ruling was actually a lot more measures than most give it credit for. It didn't require unblocking anyone nor did it impose any fine or award. It just made clear a government run account can't block citizens.

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2018, 05:48:46 pm »
Oh, I thought he was describing one of those late night after-too-many-adult-beverages screeds. 

 :silly:

Ya know, I hadn't taken that perspective into proper consideration... :pondering: :pondering:

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2018, 05:49:29 pm »
If that is the case I can keep up my secret campaign the management here to have you banned? Awesome.

It's not exactly a secret now.

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2018, 05:56:03 pm »
Uncensored??? >bleep< that!
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2018, 05:57:41 pm »
Oh, shaddap.... :laugh: :dx1:

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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2018, 06:28:14 pm »
It's not exactly a secret now.

Ah shit! Now I am going to have to secretly target someone else. I'll let you know when I find someone.

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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2018, 06:41:27 pm »
Ah shit! Now I am going to have to secretly target someone else. I'll let you know when I find someone.

May I give you some suggestions?

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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2018, 06:43:59 pm »
May I give you some suggestions?

Sure. If they are good, maybe I'll take you off my list.

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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2018, 06:46:37 pm »
Sure. If they are good, maybe I'll take you off my list.

Oh, I was going to suggest myself.

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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2018, 07:06:48 pm »
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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2018, 07:38:54 pm »


That sure looks like what that sumbitch MOD 8 would look like.....
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Re: Public Forums Should Be Open and Uncensored
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2018, 07:57:42 pm »
   I was under the impression that all the Moderators here were Tolerant Women with a short fuse and a long memory.
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