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North Korean officials ‘shocked’ and scrambling over Trump’s strategically timed cancellation
May 24, 2018 | BPR staff writer

Blinded by Trump hate, liberals were quick to jump on the bandwagon that the President had some how lost his negotiation standing with Kim Jong Un shortly after he canceled a summit where the two were going to meet.

But, timing is everything.

As BizPac Review reported, North Korea had kept one of its promises and destroyed a nuclear testing site Thursday morning. At the time it wasn’t clear if Trump’s decision to cancel the meeting happened before or immediately after the site was decimated.

As dust from the bombshell news settled, it looks as if it was the latter. But, reactionary leftists aren’t good at waiting for facts or revelations to pan out and immediately ripped into Trump for being “played” by the dictator.

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One thing the world should know very clearly by now is that you can't negotiate in good faith with the pudgy little nutter because he's unpredictable and doesn't follow any common honest customs you can count on.  The same thing appliea to Little Kim, too.

If the author considers this a win because of the testing-site destruction, that's a pretty tiny "win".
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One thing the world should know very clearly by now is that you can't negotiate in good faith with the pudgy little nutter because he's unpredictable and doesn't follow any common honest customs you can count on.  The same thing appliea to Little Kim, too.

If the author considers this a win because of the testing-site destruction, that's a pretty tiny "win".

Well, it certainly isn't the loss that detractors were celebrating.

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Well, it certainly isn't the loss that detractors were celebrating.

Having the testing site blown up before any inspectors could get to it?  Big loss.  Inspecting that site would have given tons of info on their actual progress and capabilities. 

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Having the testing site blown up before any inspectors could get to it?  Big loss.  Inspecting that site would have given tons of info on their actual progress and capabilities.

Um....its a moot point because it doesn't exist anymore. They have no capabilities. They blew it up.

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Um....its a moot point because it doesn't exist anymore. They have no capabilities. They blew it up.

Nonsense.  They blew up an overused site that was no longer useful for testing.  They haven’t got rid of the rest of their nuclear facilities. 

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Nonsense.  They blew up an overused site that was no longer useful for testing.  They haven’t got rid of the rest of their nuclear facilities.

Then your entire point about what we could have learned from the inspection is invalid from the start.  What we'd need to inspect are their remaining facilities, which are still intact.  Moreover, there was never a ban in effect, at any point, to prevent them from demolishing whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted.  Arguing that they somehow put one over on us, by doing something they've been fully empowered -- indeed, actually encouraged -- to do, is preposterous.

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Then your entire point about what we could have learned from the inspection is invalid from the start.  What we'd need to inspect are their remaining facilities, which are still intact.  Moreover, there was never a ban in effect, at any point, to prevent them from demolishing whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted.  Arguing that they somehow put one over on us, by doing something they've been fully empowered -- indeed, actually encouraged -- to do, is preposterous.

That doesn't follow.

By examining the ruins of ancient civilizations, we can assess their technological progress at the time the site was abandoned.  Perhaps it's a lower-bounded estimate, but if we find axled wheels, we know they'd made it at least that far.  If we could examine the remains, we'd know things like yield estimates and technologies based on isotope findings, etc.
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That doesn't follow.

By examining the ruins of ancient civilizations, we can assess their technological progress at the time the site was abandoned.  Perhaps it's a lower-bounded estimate, but if we find axled wheels, we know they'd made it at least that far.  If we could examine the remains, we'd know things like yield estimates and technologies based on isotope findings, etc.

Except if you could examine the actual site before it was abandoned, you'd have much better data and wouldn't have to speculate.  In this case, all the other facilities are still there to be examined and give a better idea of how far along they are compared to an abandoned testing site. Which, again, they had every right to destroy at any time if they so wished, meeting or no.

That leaves aside the question of exactly how much value there is examine the site where they actually blew up the bombs, versus the facilities they used to actually build them.

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Then your entire point about what we could have learned from the inspection is invalid from the start.  What we'd need to inspect are their remaining facilities, which are still intact.  Moreover, there was never a ban in effect, at any point, to prevent them from demolishing whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted.  Arguing that they somehow put one over on us, by doing something they've been fully empowered -- indeed, actually encouraged -- to do, is preposterous.

No, it isn’t invalid.  Because inspecting what they have already done would have given us valuable insight into how far they have actually progressed, and a better idea of what to look for in terms of hidden new facilities.  All of that evidence is now gone.  That is a loss.

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No, it isn’t invalid.  Because inspecting what they have already done would have given us valuable insight into how far they have actually progressed, and a better idea of what to look for in terms of hidden new facilities.  All of that evidence is now gone.  That is a loss.

That's absurd. There are no other facilities. They barely had the one in the mountain running that they blew up prior to this exxplosion. They don't have a 100 Billion to fund a new facility and the Chinamen are sure as shit are not going to give them the money after the Norks sent a radioactive cloud over their country.

Your digging pretty effing deep here to find some material to ding Trump on. You're shit is played out.

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Hmmmm.....

Perhaps Mr. Trump ought to lead them on to thinking another meeting is scheduled, then back out again.

Perhaps the Norks will blow up -another- nuclear facility, jes' to show they really mean it...   ;)