The Deep State Is Real, And Much Bigger Than You KnowTownhall

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Townhall
Derek Hunter
May 20, 2018

I used to be a doubter who would cringe, just a little, at any mention of “the deep state.” I admit it, it all seemed a little far-fetched to me that there was this cabal of careerists conspiring from within the government to harm President Donald Trump when I first heard it. I never doubted there were individuals doing it, but a wide net of conspirators seemed like something out of a bad movie more than anything that could actually happen in the United States. I was wrong, very wrong, the deep state is real. But there is much more than just this small group of powerful people working toward a common goal, there is an entire infrastructure created by the left not only to destroy Trump, but to indoctrinate unsuspecting Americans into their agenda.

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This immediately seems alarmist but it's hard to argue with what he'd saying.

[jmyrlefuller]

The good news is this: most of the "deep state" has far less power than they think they do, and so most of the things they use in their attempts to sabotage him end up backfiring.

It is hilariously ironic that the more the subversive elements in our government and media try to harp on Trump over irrelevant nonsense that was already known before he was elected, the more it makes them look like fools.

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The good news is this: most of the "deep state" has far less power than they think they do, and so most of the things they use in their attempts to sabotage him end up backfiring.

Their power over us is real enough and that is what must ultimately end.

[roamer_1]

This is nonsense.

There is an appearance of truth to it, but its motives and mode are silly, and conspiratorial.

I will use a church as an example:
The minute the building is raised and the pews installed, there rises an ideology based in the continuance of the edifice, which can and often DOES override the very reason for the edifice's existence. The church, in dogma, will overcome the very doctrines of its founding.

Government is no different. The organization in aggregate develops its own consciousness - a spirit, if you will - And that spirit seeks to preserve itself. Simple as that. No dramatic and conspiratorial 'deep state'.

But the lesson in that is what proves Conservatism. What is needed is to reduce government to the point that its need to preserve itself cannot work against the foundational doctrines of it's founding.

That is what liberals (including all you Big Gov Republicans) don't understand.

It isn't that it does. It will.
The problem is that it can.

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Government is no different. The organization in aggregate develops its own consciousness - a spirit, if you will - And that spirit seeks to preserve itself. Simple as that. No dramatic and conspiratorial 'deep state'.

Yes, it's understood that there is no great plot or grand plan. But lefties are drawn to universities, NGOs, think tanks and government, all in effective collusion. The spirit of preservation is therefore not just organizational but ideological as well.

 

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Yes, it's understood that there is no great plot or grand plan. But lefties are drawn to universities, NGOs, think tanks and government, all in effective collusion. The spirit of preservation is therefore not just organizational but ideological as well.

Certainly true - And why socialism as an ideology is so promoted by that spirit... An all-powerful state is what best preserves the state (or seems to).

That is not going to be fixed by pouring trillions more into the 'swamp', as an example...

So instead of being redundant, I will simply point you back to my final thought above...

[Bigun]

This immediately seems alarmist but it's hard to argue with what he'd saying.

I've been trying to point out the same thing here for ages.