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Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« on: May 08, 2018, 10:38:46 pm »
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Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
By Patrick J. Buchanan

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Yet more fateful for our future is the decision Trump will make by Saturday. May 12 is his deadline to decide whether America trashes the Iran nuclear deal and reimposes sanctions.

While our NATO allies are imploring Trump not to destroy the deal and start down a road that is likely to end in war with Iran, Bibi Netanyahu on Sunday called this a Munich moment:

“Nations that did not act in time against murderous aggression against them paid a much higher price later on.”

Read more at: http://buchanan.org/blog/dont-trash-the-nuclear-deal-129279
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 10:51:15 pm »
This is like some political points of view I hear.

You hear one thing, you think, okay, that person is right, then, you hear a counter view, and think, no he/she is right.

I will say, Israel hit Syria today and they hit another weapons depot, they hit hundreds of missiles. Something like that. Now, why would Iran have this big storage of weapons right next door to Israel? Latest, is 9 dead... check the news for oneself, I will try to post it.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 10:53:35 pm »
Everything Iran says is a lie.  They've been killing our troops for at least 15 years.  Time for an accounting
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2018, 02:47:20 am »
I've always liked Pat, but he's wrong on this one.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2018, 02:50:25 am »
Quote from: Fishrrman on May 09, 2018, 02:47:20 am
I've always liked Pat, but he's wrong on this one.

There has been no peace in the ME since the Mullahs were allowed to take control of the Iranian government and there will be none for so long as they remain in that role.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 03:09:43 am »
So what I read is some people seem to want a war with Iran to effect regime change.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2018, 03:17:04 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 09, 2018, 03:09:43 am
So what I read is some people seem to want a war with Iran to effect regime change.

Not me!  All we need to do is provide a little help to the right people in Iran and they will take care of the regime change thing for us.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2018, 03:27:09 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on May 08, 2018, 10:53:35 pm
Everything Iran says is a lie.  They've been killing our troops for at least 15 years.  Time for an accounting

Trump probably knows an order of magnitude about Iran than Pat does.  I think Trump just might pull an Iranian rabbit out of the Globalists' hat.  He has assured us that he will do so before November 11 of this year.

Go figure.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2018, 03:33:12 am »
Quote from: Bigun on May 09, 2018, 03:17:04 am
Not me!  All we need to do is provide a little help to the right people in Iran and they will take care of the regime change thing for us.

@Bigun  From your lips to God's ears! ;)
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2018, 03:34:06 am »
Quote from: the_doc on May 09, 2018, 03:27:09 am
Trump probably knows an order of magnitude about Iran than Pat does.  I think Trump just might pull an Iranian rabbit out of the Globalists' hat.  He has assured us that he will do so before November 11 of this year.

Go figure.

@the_doc  Wait, when did President Trump say that?!  I missed it!
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2018, 03:45:03 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 09, 2018, 03:33:12 am
@Bigun  From your lips to God's ears! ;)

Should have happened in 2009 and would have but for Obama preventing it.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2018, 03:51:30 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 09, 2018, 03:34:06 am
@the_doc  Wait, when did President Trump say that?!  I missed it!

When did Trump say what? We know, North Korea is at the negotiating table and we could see the peninsula de-nuclearized.

Yes, Trump may and in fact, surely, has access to intelligence that Pat Buchanan does not.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2018, 04:06:06 am »
Quote from: TomSea on May 09, 2018, 03:51:30 am
When did Trump say what? We know, North Korea is at the negotiating table and we could see the peninsula de-nuclearized.

Yes, Trump may and in fact, surely, has access to intelligence that Pat Buchanan does not.

@TomSea  @the_doc said, " I think Trump just might pull an Iranian rabbit out of the Globalists' hat.  He has assured us that he will do so before November 11 of this year."  I missed the President's prediction.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2018, 05:03:27 am »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 09, 2018, 04:06:06 am
@TomSea  @the_doc said, " I think Trump just might pull an Iranian rabbit out of the Globalists' hat.  He has assured us that he will do so before November 11 of this year."  I missed the President's prediction.

@LauraTXNM

I agree, sorry, I don't understand that part...Nov. 11 which I think is always veteran's day.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal!
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2018, 04:35:51 pm »
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Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 09, 2018, 04:06:06 am
@TomSea  @the_doc said, " I think Trump just might pull an Iranian rabbit out of the Globalists' hat.  He has assured us that he will do so before November 11 of this year."  I missed the President's prediction.

POTUS has publicly told the military to plan the grandest military parade in modern history for November 11, 2018.

Consider the following linkage to that future celebration:  Several weeks ago, Trump telegraphed his timetable regarding NK and Iran through his obviously authorized military intelligence leaker Qanon.  I believe the first release occurred before Kim Jong Un announced his proposal for ending the Korean War, reuniting the Peninsula, and possibly denuclearizing the Peninsula.  Qanon said that the NK problem would be dependably resolved first, and then the Iran problem.  The post by Qanon radiated confidence, as I recall.  I don't recall the exact language, but Qanon's prediction about the pacification of NK--which we can take as Trump's prediction (for a myriad of reasons)--was soon followed by Kim Jong Un's overtures for peace.

Making the cloak-and-dagger stuff even more interesting, the subsequent press releases about a planned meeting between Trump and Kim Jong Un to work out the details of peace triggered a really weird drop by Qanon.  He said pretty clearly that Trump had already met with Kim Jong Un.  He definitely insinuated that Trump met secretly with Kim Jong Un in Beijing during his Pacific Tour. 

Yeah, I know it sounds crazy, but Qanon has an incredible track record of being right since the fall of 2017 .  Trump and his military intel team are doing lots and lots of stuff that the MSM doesn't cover, doesn't even know about.  Even without full public disclosure, Trump clearly wants some of the eerie info to be leaked through Qanon to Trump's own supporters.

It gets even eerier when we consider the background of Qanon's earlier drops about NK and the Global Socialists.  Qanon alleged an extraordinarily nasty relationship between the Deep State and North Korea.  He insinuated that the Deep State bad actors included, in this case, rogue sections of our own CIA and Google.  (Huh?)

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Anyway, Qanon's prediction about the pacification of NK contained confident language about NK first and then Iran. As I recall, he definitely suggested that both of these problems should be resolved by November--which could account for Trump's proposed military celebration/parade.

Pardon my sketchy summary, but this is what I remember.  Also, check out this thread for an overview of the Qanon phenomenon: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1676793.html#msg1676793.

P.S.  This weird stuff is one of the reasons why I don't think Pat Buchanan knows what he is talking about.


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