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Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« on: April 24, 2018, 01:41:39 pm »
(CNN)President Donald Trump is increasingly relying on his personal cell phone to contact outside advisers, multiple sources inside and outside the White House told CNN, as Trump returns to the free-wheeling mode of operation that characterized the earliest days of his administration.

"He uses it a lot more often more recently," a senior White House official said of the President's cell phone.

Sources cited Trump's stepped-up cell phone use as an example of chief of staff John Kelly's waning influence over who gets access to the President. During the early days of Kelly's tenure, multiple sources said, Trump made many of his calls from the White House switchboard -- a tactic that allowed the chief of staff to receive a printed list of who Trump had phoned. Kelly has less insight into who Trump calls on his personal cell phone.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/politics/donald-trump-cell-phone/index.html
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2018, 01:45:42 pm »
"What is new in the cell phone age is the ease of intercepting them and that at least our last two presidents ... have chafed at not being able to use their personal cell phones," Cunningham added. "Of course, calls are only secure if both parties use a secure device."


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https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/03/dhs-unauthorized-stingrays-washington-dc/

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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2018, 01:48:38 pm »
multiple sources inside and outside the White House told CNN

Because CNN is the go to news source for everyone, and not just devout Marxists who hate Trump.

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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2018, 01:55:43 pm »
Brian, Steve, and Ainsley can't get all the scoops.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2018, 02:14:35 pm »
Brian, Steve, and Ainsley can't get all the scoops.

What about Shadow Chief of Staff Sean Hannity?   :thud:
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2018, 02:19:02 pm »
Brian, Steve, and Ainsley can't get all the scoops.

Scoops to what exactly? There is absolutely no evidence that any of this is remotely true. The outlet peddling this rumor with unnamed sources' entire business model is manufacturing Trump hit pieces.

The low level dim bulb idiots who believe this garbage about the President using a hackable phone are also the same knuckle dragging droolers who think there isn't a problem with the Presidents lawyer getting his offices raided. They have an agenda.

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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2018, 02:21:31 pm »
Yesterday CNN reported that Trump made the unpardonable sin, of misspelling a word on a Tweet.

Within munutes, about 20 news organs fired out the same story. In a couple of hours, the number grew to over 50 stories.



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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 02:24:39 pm »
Yesterday CNN reported that Trump made the unpardonable sin, of misspelling a word on a Tweet.

Within munutes, about 20 news organs fired out the same story. In a couple of hours, the number grew to over 50 stories.

It's what they do. Make shit up. Flood the zone with it. Move on to the next made up unsubstantiated story the next day.

BTW they tried this personal phone story last year and it went nowhere. They are getting lazy or running out of material.

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 02:26:40 pm »
Good thing he didn't use a personal server or laptop .  People go to jail for that kind of thing.
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 02:30:29 pm »
"What is new in the cell phone age is the ease of intercepting them and that at least our last two presidents ... have chafed at not being able to use their personal cell phones," Cunningham added. "Of course, calls are only secure if both parties use a secure device."


DHS may have found unauthorized Stingray devices in Washington DC

https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/03/dhs-unauthorized-stingrays-washington-dc/

With the technology available cell phones are never 100% secure  The basic technology is not made to be secure.

If you want secure voice calls use the govt systems or perhaps some kind of voice of IP technology over an encrypted connection. 
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 02:40:54 pm »
Scoops to what exactly? There is absolutely no evidence that any of this is remotely true. The outlet peddling this rumor with unnamed sources' entire business model is manufacturing Trump hit pieces.

The low level dim bulb idiots who believe this garbage about the President using a hackable phone are also the same knuckle dragging droolers who think there isn't a problem with the Presidents lawyer getting his offices raided. They have an agenda.


Yeah, like those dimbulbs at Fox that ran excerpts of the NYT story and asked for comment not long after the inauguration.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/01/26/is-president-trump-still-using-his-old-android-phone.html
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 02:51:11 pm »
This has to be driving the White House Communications Agency nuts.

There are very good and very legitimate reasons to not have the POTUS or his VP or any of their staff use personal cell phones especially inside the WH and the Oval Office.
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 03:05:16 pm »
This has to be driving the White House Communications Agency nuts.

There are very good and very legitimate reasons to not have the POTUS or his VP or any of their staff use personal cell phones especially inside the WH and the Oval Office.


Besides, even if it’s an updated, secure device, the security is only as good as the device on the other end of the conversation.  Any decent intel service would be aware of his contacts in NYC and other places.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2018, 03:08:46 pm »

Besides, even if it’s an updated, secure device, the security is only as good as the device on the other end of the conversation.  Any decent intel service would be aware of his contacts in NYC and other places.

And any commercially available "secure phone" won't be as good as the encryption the DoD can slap on one.  I feel sure the tools that we used to hack Merkel's Blackberry are available to intelligence services around the world to do to us as well.
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 03:09:18 pm »
That White House Source guy sure does know alot of stuff.

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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 03:20:32 pm »
And any commercially available "secure phone" won't be as good as the encryption the DoD can slap on one.  I feel sure the tools that we used to hack Merkel's Blackberry are available to intelligence services around the world to do to us as well.

The trouble with commercial cell phones is the technology at its base.   The phone digitizes the users voices and sends the call as data and not as an analog signal like the landlines.    With the commercial cell technology the cell tower can read that data.  Nominally this allows them to check signal quality and route the call to the other end.   It also allows them access to the contents of the data, in this case the users voice.  So unless the phone can encrypt the users voice and that data is sent to the other end without breaking down the encryption its not secure. 

This requires an application on the phone separate from the call functionality.  So instead of making a cell call you would use the application to make a call.    This isn't foolproof, since the phones microphone is easily compromised and could route the audio to any destination.

Its more than encryption since the sending and receiving device also have to be secure.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2018, 03:23:51 pm »
Its more than encryption since the sending and receiving device also have to be secure.

Understood.  I didn't want to get too in the weeds with what it takes LOL!

And assuming this story is accurate...if he's using his personal cell phone that he had before he took office to call people he called before he took office there is no guarantee that either line is secure.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2018, 03:41:27 pm »
Good thing he didn't use a personal server or laptop .  People go to jail for that kind of thing.

Unless you’re a two time loser presidential candidate playing the race card and spouting gender equality doctrine while her horn dog husband is doing Dallas.

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2018, 03:49:44 pm »
That White House Source guy sure does know alot of stuff.

Uncanny this guy is everywhere.   Hell of a source.  A real Damn Sherlock.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2018, 05:07:19 pm »
Scoops to what exactly? There is absolutely no evidence that any of this is remotely true. The outlet peddling this rumor with unnamed sources' entire business model is manufacturing Trump hit pieces.

The low level dim bulb idiots who believe this garbage about the President using a hackable phone are also the same knuckle dragging droolers who think there isn't a problem with the Presidents lawyer getting his offices raided. They have an agenda.

Ya think????
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Re: Trump Ramps Up Personal Cell Phone Use
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2018, 05:10:09 pm »
This has to be driving the White House Communications Agency nuts.

There are very good and very legitimate reasons to not have the POTUS or his VP or any of their staff use personal cell phones especially inside the WH and the Oval Office.

@txradioguy   So .... you are assuming that this 'reliable source' is reliable?

Are you Charlie Brown or somebody?

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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2018, 05:12:05 pm »
Yesterday CNN reported that Trump made the unpardonable sin, of misspelling a word on a Tweet.

Within munutes, about 20 news organs fired out the same story. In a couple of hours, the number grew to over 50 stories.

We live in weird times. 
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2018, 05:15:02 pm »
@txradioguy   So .... you are assuming that this 'reliable source' is reliable?

Are you Charlie Brown or somebody?

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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2018, 05:15:23 pm »
What about Shadow Chief of Staff Sean Hannity?   :thud:

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