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You forgot Maria Harf formerly of the State Department, famous for saying the poor fellas in ISIS only need jobs, and Juan Williams, Eboni K. Williams, Geraldo Rivera, Adam Lashinsky, Moe Eliason(sp?) not to mention the parade of leftists Tucker Carlson debates each night.

I was just about to add these names to the list... especially Juan Williams.

I'd also add Chris Wallace. 

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I agree with him on one point: FNC is not worth watching,  while FBN is about as good as it gets.

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After decades of watching FOX (and enjoying Peters),  I can no longer watch it.

For the same reason that Peters is quitting.

It's a Trump propaganda machine, and cannot be trusted.   

(I almost gagged watching Laura whatserface's worship service when I watched it a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately, I was at someone else's house and couldn't turn the TV off).

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Yeah,it was MUCH better when it blindly supported the Bush Crime Family,McLunatic,and Romney,huh?

The only difference between devout Republicans and devout Dims are the names of the criminals you worship and support.
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He might be more CNN's flavor.  He could join Jack Kingston, Rick Santorum, and Andre Bauer.  I know Jeffrey Lord was fired, and there's always room for more.

@LauraTXNM

Is there really any practical difference? If ANY network were to report the actual truth with no spin it would be by accident,and chances are that producer would be fired.

They ALL lie,and they lie because that is how they get subscribers and how they sell their products to a targeted audience of braindead partisan loons.
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Is there really any practical difference? If ANY network were to report the actual truth with no spin it would be by accident,and chances are that producer would be fired.

They ALL lie,and they lie because that is how they get subscribers and how they sell their products to a targeted audience of braindead partisan loons.

I think you're pretty much right on.  The most honest reporters, IMHO, are those who recognize they have a bias and actively try to present the "other side".
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I recently lost a couple of friends when they both mentioned that even though they have a sat dish their favorite tv show is "hannity and friends",and that "I GOT to have me some Hannity every night. If my sat dish is down,I will go somewhere else to watch it!" I started laughing and said "Dayum! And here I was thinking MY life is boring!" They were insulted beyond belief. They just KNEW I would be a Fox News groupie,too.

I can't help it. They literally have hundreds of movies and cable tv shows to watch,yet they had rather watch that gas bag spin politics every night. They could be watching Game of Thrones,Breaking Bad,The Walking Dead,Homeland,Shameless,The Blacklist,Vikings,Deadwood,etc,etc,etc,but they would rather use up a couple of hours of their life watching that nonsense.

To make it worse they still make snide remarks about Fox News every time I see them,and I just laugh. Which seems to make it worse.
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What are you talking about?  Do you ever even watch Fox?  They have dissenting voices all the time.  Can't stand that idiot Juan Williams, to name just one.  Tamara Holder is another annoying one.  And a few past and present ones....

Alan Colmes
Susan Estrich
Bob Beckel
Mara Laiason
Mort Kondrache
Kirsten Powers
Sally Kohn
James Carville
Kirsten Powers
Arthel Neville

I sure as hell don't know of any leftist lamestream media outlet that allows that many "dissenting voices" from the right on their shows.  Do you?

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Why don't you calm down.  My post referred to @Right_in_Virginia's wishes.

God no, I don't watch Fox.  If I did, would I agree with Peters?

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LTC Ralph Peters Ret., sounds incompetent, bad judgement and Fox benefits from him leaving.

Ret. LTCs willing to babble on TV, are a dime a dozen.

Peters was MI (Military Intelligence)...they're all a bit wacko.
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Peters was MI (Military Intelligence)...they're all a bit wacko.
My non-college grad uncle retired at LTC with 27 yrs. spanning WWII, Korea and Vietnam.

Great guy, but yes some whackiness for sure.
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@XenaLee

Why don't you calm down.  My post referred to @Right_in_Virginia's wishes.

God no, I don't watch Fox.  If I did, would I agree with Peters?

What makes you think I'm not calm?  Its just that.... when I see someone make an outright BS comment like that....

I have to chime in.   :laugh:
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What makes you think I'm not calm?  Its just that.... when I see someone make an outright BS comment like that....

I have to chime in.   :laugh:

@XenaLee

Wasn’t BS.  Most of the people on your list aren’t current.  Fox has become a joke.  Next time Trump gets in hot water for something, you can depend on Hannity to ignore it and do a show about Hillary.

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@XenaLee

Wasn’t BS.  Most of the people on your list aren’t current.  Fox has become a joke.  Next time Trump gets in hot water for something, you can depend on Hannity to ignore it and do a show about Hillary.

Well... you certainly have a right to your opinion.  And mine is.... Fox is still the ONLY network that even attempts to be 'fair and balanced' by allowing the idiot left to present their side too... unlike all of the other lamestream media outlets.... which are all leftist-leaning.

I get it that you despise Trump.  I'm not exactly a rabid fan, myself.  But try not to let your bias against him color other important things here.  Mainly and most importantly.... that we MUST defeat the left in November and again in 2020.  Our very survival as a free (free of liberal idiocy) nation is at stake.  If the Democrats get their way and win again.... we are, quite simply...

SCREWED.


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Well... you certainly have a right to your opinion.  And mine is.... Fox is still the ONLY network that even attempts to be 'fair and balanced' by allowing the idiot left to present their side too... unlike all of the other lamestream media outlets.... which are all leftist-leaning.

As I mentioned above, every panel I see on CNN includes Jack Kingston, Andre Bauer, Rick Santorum, or at least 1-2 Conservatives or Republicans out of 3-4 panelists.
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  They all Suck, it's been downhill since these Guys (Huntley & Brinkley) pretended that they too were Reality TV Stars.

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  They all Suck, it's been downhill since these Guys (Huntley & Brinkley) pretended that they too were Reality TV Stars.



@corbe  Oh, wow, so that it what David Brinkley looked like when he was young!  And I don't think I've ever seen Chet(?) Huntley before!
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@XenaLee

Wasn’t BS.  Most of the people on your list aren’t current.  Fox has become a joke.  Next time Trump gets in hot water for something, you can depend on Hannity to ignore it and do a show about Hillary.

@CatherineofAragon

So,you object about them dumping on Hillary,and applaud them for dumping on Trump. "Gurl power" hypocrisy?
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Well... you certainly have a right to your opinion.  And mine is.... Fox is still the ONLY network that even attempts to be 'fair and balanced' by allowing the idiot left to present their side too... unlike all of the other lamestream media outlets.... which are all leftist-leaning.

I get it that you despise Trump.  I'm not exactly a rabid fan, myself.  But try not to let your bias against him color other important things here.  Mainly and most importantly.... that we MUST defeat the left in November and again in 2020.  Our very survival as a free (free of liberal idiocy) nation is at stake.  If the Democrats get their way and win again.... we are, quite simply...

SCREWED.

@XenaLee

You don't seriously think the NT loons care about something as frivolous as the survival of the nation,do you? WAKE UP! RINO POWER IS AT RISK! They are Party People who put party and their favorite RINO's ahead of of the survival of the nation because they just "gots to have me some Bush or McLunatic!"

It doesn't bother them that Hillary has most likely grabbed more snatch than Trump or that half the alleged males in the Bush Crime Family,as well as Lady Lindsey have without grabbed more penis than Hillary. What matters to them is their familiar and comfortable traitors have had their careers harmed by an outsider.

The two biggest problems this country faces is the Dim Party and the alleged Republican Party. Both are populated by self-serving traitors.
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As I mentioned above, every panel I see on CNN includes Jack Kingston, Andre Bauer, Rick Santorum, or at least 1-2 Conservatives or Republicans out of 3-4 panelists.

And former Trump advisers and spokesmen such as Stephen Moore and Jason Miller are on CNN panels several times a week along with current spokesmen and Administration members.   Just last night I watched an interview that Erin Burnett had with Peter Navarro, Trump’s National Trade Council, where Navarro tried to defend the new tariffs.  CNN has plenty of Trump supporters, defenders, and current and former advisers on.  To say CNN doesn’t allow this Administration’s side to be presented is just factually untrue.
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Well... you certainly have a right to your opinion.  And mine is.... Fox is still the ONLY network that even attempts to be 'fair and balanced' by allowing the idiot left to present their side too... unlike all of the other lamestream media outlets.... which are all leftist-leaning.

I get it that you despise Trump.  I'm not exactly a rabid fan, myself.  But try not to let your bias against him color other important things here.  Mainly and most importantly.... that we MUST defeat the left in November and again in 2020.  Our very survival as a free (free of liberal idiocy) nation is at stake.  If the Democrats get their way and win again.... we are, quite simply...

SCREWED.

@XenaLee, really?  You’re part of the crowd that accuses people of Trump hate now?  Have to admit, you surprise me.

I can’t think of anyone I actually despise in my real life, so why would some politician I’ve never met inspire a such powerful emotion?  I wish we could get back to the days when conservatives respected word definitions and understood nuance, instead of slinging around hate accusations.

Do I like Trump?  No, and why would I?  I don’t think he has any character.  That said, I laugh at some of the things he says, which are funny.  Others are cringeworthy.  Beyond that, he’s just a public servant with a job to do.  He ends up getting in his own way too often.

I don’t know of anyone who still thinks Fox is fair and balanced, but okay.  I’ve been getting my news online for the past couple of years.

I’m sorry, but I’ve heard all of the dramatic “this is our last election” doomsday stuff before, and I’m over it.  If you expect the GOP to save the country, you haven’t been paying attention.

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@XenaLee, really?  You’re part of the crowd that accuses people of Trump hate now?  Have to admit, you surprise me.

  I wish we could get back to the days when conservatives respected word definitions and understood nuance, instead of slinging around hate accusations.


@CatherineofAragon

I wish we could get back to the days,assuming they really existed,where people who called themselves concervatives WERE conservative,and not just card-carrying party members willing to follow any fool with an R behind his or her name,like sheep following a sheep herder.

We have had several presidents and presidential candidates since Reagan that had a "Big Red R" behind their names,and every damn one of them was a "go along to get along" career political creature with all the character of a pimp.

Now we have a president with an R behind his name that didn't come up through the ranks,kissing rings and owing favors all the way that is the most conservative president we have had since Reagan,and all the Party People shitheads are horrified and hate him worse than the Clintons or those evil Bush bastards,and are doing everything they CAN do to try to destroy any chances he might have of getting conservative legislation passed and leftist legislation repealed.

And the primary reason is because he beat JEB and Cruz out for the nomination. These people are not conservatives,and they aren't even Americans. They are human drones that think this is some sort of sporting event,and by GAWD days agaona root for de home team and dey favorite players!


Apparently you did not see that 3 page thread
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,308154.0.html

consider this your first warning
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@XenaLee, really?  You’re part of the crowd that accuses people of Trump hate now?  Have to admit, you surprise me.

I can’t think of anyone I actually despise in my real life, so why would some politician I’ve never met inspire a such powerful emotion?  I wish we could get back to the days when conservatives respected word definitions and understood nuance, instead of slinging around hate accusations.


Ehhh.... despise vs. dislike... what's the difference?  Just a lot of silly parsing of words, IMO.  Please  don't insult our intelligence and try to say here that disliking Trump, which you admit to, is that different from despising Trump.  And I didn't mention the word "hate".... you did.

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Do I like Trump?  No, and why would I?  I don’t think he has any character.  That said, I laugh at some of the things he says, which are funny.  Others are cringeworthy.  Beyond that, he’s just a public servant with a job to do.  He ends up getting in his own way too often.

Well, truthfully.... I don't like him either.  But that's beside the point.  He's the CIC we have, not the one we wanted.  And right now he's the only thing standing between us and a radical leftist/totalitarian rule of America.  And I have to admit.... that the fact that the establishment and radical left now hates, loathes and despises (no parsing here...lol) him with every atom in their bodies.... tickles the hell out of me.   Of course, that's just my humble opinion, which I am entitled to.

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I don’t know of anyone who still thinks Fox is fair and balanced, but okay.  I’ve been getting my news online for the past couple of years.

You must hang with a lot of lefties then.  Compared to the leftist media outlets, Fox is the ONLY one that is not leftist-biased.  Just sayin.....

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I’m sorry, but I’ve heard all of the dramatic “this is our last election” doomsday stuff before, and I’m over it.  If you expect the GOP to save the country, you haven’t been paying attention.

Yeah, yeah.  You can call it dramatic and doomsday.  Feel free.  I call it REALITY.  And the reality is.... if the radical left manages to destroy and eliminate Trump, that will equate to their win in the next two (or more) elections.

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@CatherineofAragon

So,you object about them dumping on Hillary,and applaud them for dumping on Trump. "Gurl power" hypocrisy?

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Yes, you have me pegged.  That is 100% my take on the situation.

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Just for the record, @XenaLee ..... I know plenty of people who no longer watch Fox because they are too liberal.

That happened when they lost all objectivity, and along with the GOPe abandoned all conservatism whatsoever to support and adore trump.

If you can name any Fox commentator who objects to Trump from the right as we do here, I will accede to their ‘fair and balanced’ claim.
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Just for the record, @XenaLee ..... I know plenty of people who no longer watch Fox because they are too liberal.

That happened when they lost all objectivity, and along with the GOPe abandoned all conservatism whatsoever to support and adore trump.

If you can name any Fox commentator who objects to Trump from the right as we do here, I will accede to their ‘fair and balanced’ claim.

Too liberal?  But the point remains.... that they are the only media outlet/network that is not rabidly slanted to the left.  I can't believe you guys are actually trying to dispute that.  Seriously? 

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Ehhh.... despise vs. dislike... what's the difference?  Just a lot of silly parsing of words, IMO.  Please  don't insult our intelligence and try to say here that disliking Trump, which you admit to, is that different from despising Trump.  And I didn't mention the word "hate".... you did.

Sorry, but your opinion doesn't matter when it comes to the meanings of words, and you don't get to redefine them anymore than a leftist.  If you want to check the dictionary, I encourage it.

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Well, truthfully.... I don't like him either.  But that's beside the point.  He's the CIC we have, not the one we wanted.  And right now he's the only thing standing between us and a radical leftist/totalitarian rule of America.  And I have to admit.... that the fact that the establishment and radical left now hates, loathes and despises (no parsing here...lol) him with every atom in their bodies.... tickles the hell out of me.   Of course, that's just my humble opinion, which I am entitled to.

So you despise Trump?  Strong emotion for someone you've never even met.

I don't agree that Trump is the single heroic figure standing in the way of ruin.  He isn't a monarch.  Yeah, he's the president we have, so what do you think I should do with that?  Stop criticizing him?  Limit myself to praise?  I'm not exactly out in the street yelling for him to be impeached, you know.

Yeah, liberals are mad, big deal.  They're always mad about something.  There are a hell of a lot more important things to worry about, unless you think looking back and saying "well, but we owned the libs!" will be enough of a legacy.  I don't.

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You must hang with a lot of lefties then.  Compared to the leftist media outlets, Fox is the ONLY one that is not leftist-biased.  Just sayin.....

Nailed again.  Linda Sarsour and I are pretty tight, actually.  And I do love me a good Antifa rally.

You misunderstand me.  Fox puts out a different type of propaganda than MSNBC and CNN, but it's still propaganda, and I don't want it.  I can think for myself.  Just present me with the facts.

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Yeah, yeah.  You can call it dramatic and doomsday.  Feel free.  I call it REALITY.  And the reality is.... if the radical left manages to destroy and eliminate Trump, that will equate to their win in the next two (or more) elections.

I don't think they will.  If he runs, I think he'll be re-elected.

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Oh... and by the way....

welcome back!   ^-^

Hey, thanks!