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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #200 on: March 13, 2018, 02:22:54 PM »
Thomas Jefferson would disagree with you on that.

As bad as the State Department can be, diplomacy is an important part of what actually DOES make America great.

Not to mention the fact that, if you're overseas and have any kind of issue, you go to a US Embassy for the help you need.

Just because Trump is clueless about diplomacy doesn't mean that it should be abandoned.

Diplomacy is one thing and being sold out at every turn by a bunch of commie pinkos in the Department of State is quite another.  Unfortunately the latter has been what's happened with regularity for most of the 20th and 21st centuries.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #201 on: March 13, 2018, 02:44:18 PM »


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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #202 on: March 13, 2018, 02:44:45 PM »
Then he should have worked that out before nominating Tillerson. Pompeo may be a great SoS; I hope he is! What concerns me is, if Tillerson wasn’t the right guy, how inthe heck was he nominated to begin with?

Simple. Trump wasn’t a career politician when he came in. Being new to the world of Washington politics, and wanting to appear bipartisan to smooth things over after a divisive election, he relied on the pros in government for suggestions. So, when those picks failed him he fires them. Like Rush said today, a year into the job Trump’s now relying on his own instincts, those same instincts that made him a winner in his business career.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #203 on: March 13, 2018, 02:50:41 PM »
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"But don't let the facts disrupt your preconceived notions."
I don't do word fights like you are trying to start.  I posted news about the tweet according to a news organization saying it.  If someone leaked it, Trump could have called Tillerson then rather than putting it in a tweet.  Regardless of how it happened, it appears Tillerson found out by reading a tweet.

1) President Trump told Tillerson he was fired on Friday.   PERSONALLY.

2) The wire story that Rex Tillerson "got ill" on said Friday was complete BS.   He already knew he was gone.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #204 on: March 13, 2018, 02:53:11 PM »
1) President Trump told Tillerson he was fired on Friday.   PERSONALLY.

2) The wire story that Rex Tillerson "got ill" on said Friday was complete BS.   He already knew he was gone.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #205 on: March 13, 2018, 02:56:40 PM »
1) President Trump told Tillerson he was fired on Friday.   PERSONALLY.

2) The wire story that Rex Tillerson "got ill" on said Friday was complete BS.   He already knew he was gone.

DC please provide a link re Trump personally telling him Friday..I have been all over the net abd have not seen that..they have reported that Clark told him it would happen soon and Tillerson found out  this morning in a tweet by Trump..and Trump later called him from AF1

btw Tillerson thanked everyone today except Trump.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #206 on: March 13, 2018, 02:58:19 PM »
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Bob listened to Tillerson speak - said his voice was not his regular voice - it was also obvious he was trembling - Bob said Tillerson is extremely angry to sound like that.  Bob no longer a Trump apologist after Trump treating Tillerson this way.  Trump firing the second SOS man a few hours ago, just added to his disgust of Trump doing this.  Won't post on this thread again as the Trump slaughter should be over today. 

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #207 on: March 13, 2018, 02:59:34 PM »
Probably assumed that because as the head of Exxon and dealing with other global CEO's it would translate to an ability to deal with world leaders.

But as we're learning...skill in the board room doesn't equate to skill at the negotiating table.



Tillerson had a position where HE told everybody what to do.   He even told people outside of Exxon what to do.   He crafted personal relationships with dictators in countries where he did business.

In terms of negotiating skills, he's got that well covered, IMO.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #208 on: March 13, 2018, 03:00:24 PM »
DC please provide a link re Trump personally telling him Friday..I have been all over the net abd have not seen that..they have reported that Clark told him it would happen soon and Tillerson found out  this morning in a tweet by Trump..and Trump later called him from AF1

btw Tillerson thanked everyone today except Trump.

It will so up later in the Rush transcripts.   @mystery-ak
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #209 on: March 13, 2018, 03:01:29 PM »
DC please provide a link re Trump personally telling him Friday..I have been all over the net abd have not seen that..they have reported that Clark told him it would happen soon and Tillerson found out  this morning in a tweet by Trump..and Trump later called him from AF1

btw Tillerson thanked everyone today except Trump.

Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with this thread.  We're back to the "fired by Tweet" version?
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #210 on: March 13, 2018, 03:01:39 PM »
Probably assumed that because as the head of Exxon and dealing with other global CEO's it would translate to an ability to deal with world leaders.

But as we're learning...skill in the board room doesn't equate to skill at the negotiating table.

Sure it does - skill in the boardroom requires a lot of diplomacy and, surprisingly to many here, integrity.  If your people don't trust you, it causes chaos and upheavals.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #211 on: March 13, 2018, 03:03:53 PM »
Will anyone notice?

Perhaps his family.  Ya think?

But, not me.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2018, 03:11:20 PM »
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NO, I just heard he found out he was fired by reading a tweet by Trump.  Trump is a miserable twerp (is twerp a word?)

"Twerp" is a word.  Informal noun.  The definition is:  A silly or annoying person.

I do believe that is the word you wanted.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #213 on: March 13, 2018, 03:13:08 PM »
Hate to see Tillerson go. Pretty crass and low class way to let him know.

I certainly don't know enough to have very firm or precise opinions but from where I sit--hate to see such.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #214 on: March 13, 2018, 03:16:10 PM »
No ... check the Washington Post @Victoria33 .... they print all the leaks they receive.

Perhaps soon, there might not be any leaks.  The President may be plugging all of the loose canons.

D.C. is gossip city.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #215 on: March 13, 2018, 03:17:50 PM »
@mystery-ak

Bob listened to Tillerson speak - said his voice was not his regular voice - it was also obvious he was trembling - Bob said Tillerson is extremely angry to sound like that.  Bob no longer a Trump apologist after Trump treating Tillerson this way.  Trump firing the second SOS man a few hours ago, just added to his disgust of Trump doing this.  Won't post on this thread again as the Trump slaughter should be over today. 

Now, have to see how Penn. special election comes out today.

I met Rex Tillerson briefly 40 something years ago and know nothing of what he became since.  Pretty sure Bob is in the same boat!

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #216 on: March 13, 2018, 03:18:51 PM »
Perhaps his family.  Ya think?

But, not me.

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I just got word that Harry Frawlish of Mandan North Dakota not only knew who Tillerson was, but he also is sad at the news. He is the president of the National Gas Station Freebie Club and had an Exxon fetish.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #217 on: March 13, 2018, 03:19:14 PM »
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #218 on: March 13, 2018, 03:20:06 PM »
Perhaps soon, there might not be any leaks.  The President may be plugging all of the loose canons.

D.C. is gossip city.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #219 on: March 13, 2018, 03:22:04 PM »
Hate to see Tillerson go. Pretty crass and low class way to let him know.

I certainly don't know enough to have very firm or precise opinions but from where I sit--hate to see such.

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The SOS went rogue and was negotiating a way to keep the Iran deal in place with our European Allies.

Tillerson was also against withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement and moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

Tillerson may be a swell guy, but it sure appears he was working for the EU.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #220 on: March 13, 2018, 03:22:51 PM »
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Bob listened to Tillerson speak - said his voice was not his regular voice - it was also obvious he was trembling - Bob said Tillerson is extremely angry to sound like that.  Bob no longer a Trump apologist after Trump treating Tillerson this way.  Trump firing the second SOS man a few hours ago, just added to his disgust of Trump doing this.  Won't post on this thread again as the Trump slaughter should be over today. 

Now, have to see how Penn. special election comes out today.

Again, according to Rush's show today.....

Goldstein...Tillerson's undersecretary, was fired for putting out a statement that contradicted the White House's version.

This was discussed just prior to Rush's claiming that Tillerson's illness in Africa was fabricated BS.

Oh...he was sick alright.  ....from getting booted.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #221 on: March 13, 2018, 03:23:19 PM »
Of course Tillerson is aware ... we're all aware of why he's out.  He disagreed -- publicly --- with the POTUS on major policy initiatives.

I hope he doesn't spend the next week whining about this ... it's unbecoming behavior from a former global CEO.

Perhaps Tillerson and Hillary can get together for a hot toddy and compare notes. 

Bad me, I know.  I do hate the whining, also.  He knew he was going to be fired.  You do not bad mouth the President's policies.  So he knew.  No doubt in my mind.

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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #222 on: March 13, 2018, 03:26:01 PM »
@Victoria33,

Don't know what happened to my last post.

1. Evidently Tillerson and POTUS have been discussing their different perspectives for some time. So the allegation that Tillerson had no idea is not quite accurate.

2. IF Tillerson found out by tweet, that was really low class and crass.

3. I liked Tillerson. Sad to see him go.

4. POTUS seems to think that the new SOS is much more of a similar mind and thought process. Time will tell.

5. I realize that POTUS TRUMP will never be able to redeem himself in your eyes, Victoria. And that besides, that, in your view, his mother dresses him funny.

6. Trump certainly has his obvious flaws. Nevertheless, as long as God is choosing to use him, and as long as I can see him doing great things against a list of evils, he'll continue to have my firm support.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #223 on: March 13, 2018, 03:26:40 PM »

Yeah and you can expect the issue of torture and evidence destruction to be resurrected by the media.

@edpc aaaaaand right on cue Shemp Smith is going on and on about how Haspel ran black ops sites that water boarded terrorists for information.

Keeps repeating that plus..."that's torture folks"...then paraphrased some quote of Trumps from the campaign regarding the topic.


I sure will be glad when Fox finally shows his ass the door and he can go he happily homosexual over at CNN with his pal Don Lemmon.
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Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #224 on: March 13, 2018, 03:28:05 PM »
Again, according to Rush's show today.....

Goldstein...Tillerson's undersecretary, was fired for putting out a statement that contradicted the White House's version.

This was discussed just prior to Rush's claiming that Tillerson's illness in Africa was fabricated BS.

Oh...he was sick alright.  ....from getting booted.

So I guess that's your way of saying you can't provide a link like you were asked to provide.

Got it.  Chalk this one up to fake news I guess.   **nononono*
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