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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2018, 10:17:51 AM »
But I'll probably hang in here for a while.

Please do, you are one of the few here I respect @Emjay and enjoy conversing with as long as the
topic is not Bush. LOL.

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2018, 10:23:35 AM »
Listen. I'm about done listening to people tell me how awesome 1st loser was in a race and how he would do such a great job. To do a great job you have to get it first. The Cruz bullshit on this site is like listening to some degenerate alcoholic at the bar talk about how Tampa Bay was cheated out of the Super Bowl this year.

It does get very tiring. Reminds me of the Paul bots for Ron Paul. I liked Paul, he was my
Congressman. But the cult of Paul did much to diminish him at a voice of reason in DC. I
fear the Cult of Cruz (pretty much the same people) will do the same to Cruz. Cruz will never
be president since Cruz is not a natural born citizen.

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2018, 10:23:57 AM »
   This Thread needs more cowbell. 

*resisting the greater urge to post a pic of Sen.Cruz out of respect @Emjay, had RiV started this Thread I would have already posted the pic..JS

You mean like this one?  Couldn't resist; after all he does live rent free in some people's minds.


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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2018, 11:33:05 AM »
You sure are a fair weather fan.

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2018, 11:54:14 AM »
I think that in the era of Trump THIS:



Is what leadership looks like.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2018, 12:02:54 PM »
@corbe @Right_in_Virginia

Don't be dissing RIV to me today.  She was the only person who was nice to me on the thread about Trump's unspeakable behavior in calling an SOB what he is.

I was called everything in the book and a few things that aren't even in the book.

I said some very nice things about you on that thread, including that I was sorry you were leaving.

Now I can say, that I'm glad you didn't leave!

We may disagree (well, we DO disagree) about Trump, but you're A-OK in my book!   :patriot:
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2018, 12:06:24 PM »
I miss @CatherineofAragon terribly.  My heart hurts every time I think about it.... 8888crybaby

Me too.

She really, really needs to come back!  She can fight back admirably, but she was beat up so bad by some very icky boys that I understand why she needed a break.

Fighting against smears all the time can wear a person out......

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Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2018, 12:24:22 PM »
Listen. I'm about done listening to people tell me how awesome 1st loser was in a race and how he would do such a great job. To do a great job you have to get it first. The Cruz bullshit on this site is like listening to some degenerate alcoholic at the bar talk about how Tampa Bay was cheated out of the Super Bowl this year.

I don't disagree. Just making notes for my tell-all book.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2018, 01:12:19 PM »
@Emjay Wait, do you have an island???  And your kids are coming to visit?  I'm so jealous!

@LauraTXNM   Hah.  I wish!  I don't have an Island but I've lived on Maui for 3 years and I love it here.  My daughter lives next door with her husband.  They are both wonderful and her husband is fantastic.  It's like having a handyman who can do anything right next door.

My son (also wonderful) and his wife, my DIL that I adore live in the second best place in the world, Canon City, Colorado.  They left yesterday.  They were here a week and it was great having them.  My son loves Kihei (our town on Maui).  He would move here in a minute if he could.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2018, 01:15:23 PM »
I said some very nice things about you on that thread, including that I was sorry you were leaving.

Now I can say, that I'm glad you didn't leave!

We may disagree (well, we DO disagree) about Trump, but you're A-OK in my book!   :patriot:

Yes, we disagree but I like you also.

This forum is wonderful for discussion but some people love to fight.  I tried to get on a long thread yesterday about Trump's accomplishments but the Mods had just shut it down for infighting.
Kinda sad.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2018, 01:20:31 PM »
This sentence is the crux of what I think is wrong about all the premature celebrations, accolades, and tributes for Trump simply accepting a meeting with a dictator (which is all that's actually happened to date).  Contrary to Tim Mostert's assertion above, I don't think "real leadership" is about being willing to sit down and hammer out a solution, it's about ACTUALLY hammering out the solution. 

If in this case, Trump gets North Korea to actually denuke and he gets inspectors access to all of North Korea to verify this, I'll give the President all the credit in the world.  No one else has been able to accomplish that, and if he does, he'll deserve all that credit.  That's a huge IF and we're a long way from it IMO.  Until the solution is actually hammered out, I'm not going to celebrate someone who's simply willing to solve a problem.  Let's solve it THEN let's celebrate!

@Concerned   You cannot solve a problem unless you're willing to TRY to solve it and even take the risk of failing.  Please, a tiny bit of credit for the effort.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2018, 01:20:36 PM »
Yes, we disagree but I like you also.

This forum is wonderful for discussion but some people love to fight.  I tried to get on a long thread yesterday about Trump's accomplishments but the Mods had just shut it down for infighting.
Kinda sad.

I agree.   I like a lively debate, and sometimes get sucked into things I shouldn't, but the non-stop bickering of some really brings the forum down, IMO.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2018, 01:24:46 PM »
Yes, we disagree but I like you also.

This forum is wonderful for discussion but some people love to fight.  I tried to get on a long thread yesterday about Trump's accomplishments but the Mods had just shut it down for infighting.
Kinda sad.

I think they reopened it.  But who wants to go there now, after all the spilt blood?
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2018, 01:38:00 PM »
@Concerned   You cannot solve a problem unless you're willing to TRY to solve it and even take the risk of failing.  Please, a tiny bit of credit for the effort.


@Emjay

When I was working, I used to have an executive or two working for me who wanted to get credit for "the effort".  As I told them, our Board of Directors and shareholders aren't compensating us for "effort", they are compensating us for "results".  Most of these executives who wanted credit just for effort didn't last that long under me.

This is even more true with the President of the United States IMO.  The American People don't vote them in for "effort", we (at least most of us, I think), voted them in for "results".  "Real leadership" is just not about "effort" IMO, it's about "results" period. At least IMO.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2018, 01:39:46 PM »
I know.  I am a big girl well able to defend myself and my opinions.  But there is so much ignorance and so little time.

@LauraTXNM might be a good girlfriend for you but she gets pretty hot if you diss El Paso so watch it.

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After my 'discussion' today with people who were totally freaked out by Trump's language, I briefly considered taking a long break from this forum.

There is no excuse whatever for the behavior of some of the posters here.

But I'll probably hang in here for a while.

@Emjay Good stay here..this is a political forum and there is bound to be major disagreements not to be taken too seriously I hope....we are all Briefers!
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2018, 01:42:23 PM »
I don't disagree. Just making notes for my tell-all book.

I gotta note for you..........D Major.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2018, 01:47:51 PM »
I gotta note for you..........D Major.

D Major isn't a note, it's a scale made up of several notes.   :tongue2:
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2018, 01:48:58 PM »
I gotta note for you..........D Major.

That's not a note, that's a chord....
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2018, 01:49:27 PM »
D Major isn't a note, it's a scale made up of several notes.   :tongue2:

Then you are getting a bargain.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2018, 01:51:16 PM »
Then you are getting a bargain.

I hope one of them is a copy of one of the love notes you wrote to Madeline.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2018, 01:52:59 PM »
I hope one of them is a copy of one of the love notes you wrote to Madeline.

She liked braile so I would punch her in the face.
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2018, 01:53:54 PM »
@Emjay Good stay here..this is a political forum and there is bound to be major disagreements not to be taken too seriously I hope....we are all Briefers!

Oh yeah?

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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2018, 01:59:41 PM »
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Re: This Is What Leadership Looks Like
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2018, 02:07:56 PM »
****slapping

I was going to post the slappies preemptively, but I was afraid you might think I was slapping at you...I chose the whistler instead.
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