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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2018, 01:02:34 am »
Went out this evening for a few hours among the good people if the town I live in...not once did the .45 I was carrying concealed try to jump off my hip and shoot anyone wild west style.

I doubt anyone even knew I had it on me.

Funny how that happens.
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2018, 01:32:53 am »
Went out this evening for a few hours among the good people if the town I live in...not once did the .45 I was carrying concealed try to jump off my hip and shoot anyone wild west style.

I doubt anyone even knew I had it on me.

Funny how that happens.

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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2018, 01:42:07 am »
Every city in the US that has a high crime rate also has tight gun control laws.   Coincidence?
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2018, 01:46:47 am »
Every city in the US that has a high crime rate also has tight gun control laws.   Coincidence?

Liberals will claim the gun laws are tough because the crime is high.  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2018, 07:25:55 am »
Well, as for motor vehicles,  I'd like to see similar requirements for licensure, registration and insurance applied to firearms.   As for the other items,  let's address the most frequently-used "tools" for deadly violence first,  then let's talk about the others.   
The most consistent tool used in murder, regardless, is the human hand. No matter what is wielded by that hand, that hand is acting on behalf of a criminal or otherwise deranged mind to kill someone, regardless of what (if anything) it is holding. Ban hands, and people will still find a way. (yes, hands AND feet are lumped together in the uniform crime statistics as weapons used to inflict blunt force trauma).

Once again, you and those of your ilk ignore the instances where the mere presence of a firearm prevented death, instances which far outnumber the cases where tools were misused by people to cause unjustified homicide (firearm shooting deaths include those shot while perpetrating crimes, too, iirc).

If the interest is in saving lives, you go with what works best, and we have that except in areas where firearms are needlessly banned to create free fire zones for criminals.
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2018, 07:28:36 am »
Liberals will claim the gun laws are tough because the crime is high.  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2018, 07:42:01 am »
Well, as for motor vehicles,  I'd like to see similar requirements for licensure, registration and insurance applied to firearms.   As for the other items,  let's address the most frequently-used "tools" for deadly violence first,  then let's talk about the others.   

Well the simple truth is a FAR greater number of people are murdered and injured by knives. Lets regulate, serialize, register and require insurance for knives. Someone could steal one of your knives and hurt someone with it. And you should be held liable for the damage caused by such a knife if you fail to report it stolen before it is used in a crime. With all the damage knives cause you should be required to store them in a locked safe so children and untrained people can't get access to them when not in use.

Thinking about it, we also need to ban assault knives. Regulate how sharp and how pointed any blade can be for safety reasons. No normal person needs a blade that sharp and if they do they should get proper training, a background check, get tested on proper handling and provide proof of insurance before taking possession. There should also be limits on how many knives you can have to prevent mass casualties.



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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2018, 08:10:16 am »
Well the simple truth is a FAR greater number of people are murdered and injured by knives. Lets regulate, serialize, register and require insurance for knives. Someone could steal one of your knives and hurt someone with it. And you should be held liable for the damage caused by such a knife if you fail to report it stolen before it is used in a crime. With all the damage knives cause you should be required to store them in a locked safe so children and untrained people can't get access to them when not in use.

Thinking about it, we also need to ban assault knives. Regulate how sharp and how pointed any blade can be for safety reasons. No normal person needs a blade that sharp and if they do they should get proper training, a background check, get tested on proper handling and provide proof of insurance before taking possession. There should also be limits on how many knives you can have to prevent mass casualties.



 You must do it for the children. If it saves just one life...

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You left out ice picks and screwdrivers....
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2018, 02:03:48 pm »
The most consistent tool used in murder, regardless, is the human hand. No matter what is wielded by that hand, that hand is acting on behalf of a criminal or otherwise deranged mind to kill someone, regardless of what (if anything) it is holding. Ban hands, and people will still find a way. (yes, hands AND feet are lumped together in the uniform crime statistics as weapons used to inflict blunt force trauma).

Once again, you and those of your ilk ignore the instances where the mere presence of a firearm prevented death, instances which far outnumber the cases where tools were misused by people to cause unjustified homicide (firearm shooting deaths include those shot while perpetrating crimes, too, iirc).

If the interest is in saving lives, you go with what works best, and we have that except in areas where firearms are needlessly banned to create free fire zones for criminals.

With the high crime rates in Louisville and the problems with drugs...especially opioids in Kentuckiana...any place where there is one or more people carting concealed is much safer and less likely to be attacked than if we weren't there.
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Re: Study: Tough gun laws keep more hands off the trigger
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2018, 03:36:01 pm »
With the high crime rates in Louisville and the problems with drugs...especially opioids in Kentuckiana...any place where there is one or more people carting concealed is much safer and less likely to be attacked than if we weren't there.
North Dakota is generally pretty well armed, and concealed carry is common. Crime, even with the uptick in new arrivals from the oil boom has stayed fairly low compared to other places. As for feeling safe, why yes, I do when I have my weapon with me.
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