"Conservatives" You guys ( I'm English) dont know know the meaning behind conservatism.
We got that from reading your reply.
Conservatism in America used to be understood in the era of Goldwater and Reagan - limited government; fiscal responsibility; promotion of biblical morality; a strong national defense; personal responsibility; family; civic duty; life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without government regulation and oversight.
Now Conservatism in the Republican Party means to outspend Liberal Leftist Democrats, fund their big-government welfare state agenda and import millions upon millions of third world squatters and grant those who broke our laws to sneak into the country - amnesty.
In short the Republican Party is just another party of Big Government welfare state that thinks it can manage big government better than the Democrats.
republicans like to spend just as much money, get involved far more on peoples health and religion far more etc
Yes, they like to spend other people's money just like Democrats do. However, it is the Left and the Democrats who involve themselves in government-mandated healthcare decisions and abolishing the religions that forged our society while imposing a hedonist/secular/Statist religion on everyone.
if you guys where conservatives you wouldn't be so against abortion,
The right to Life and liberty was a fundamental tenet of Conservatism in America. Having sex outside of marriage and killing the consequences of that sex is evil, period in the view of an American Conservative.
you wouldn't be so against religious freedom etc you will up for people making their own decisions. but you people want to control what people do, just as much as democrats. you just want to control something different.
No. Statists, whether Republican or Democrat in the Uniparty seek to control the same thing: people and their wealth and limit their liberty so long as it keeps them in perpetual political power or in control of vast sums of money funneled to them to push legislation in an incestuous and fascist cycle of never-ending government growth and power.
simple fact is, both parties have an agenda and the REAL conservatives suffer.
That is why principled Conservatives refer to them both as the Uniparty.
and by that I mean: anyone can practice any religion they want, abortion is allowed but in a scientific manner, business is supported in a rational manner, wealth fair is supported but also scrutinised so people dont take the piss etc
Some religions consider others infidels and work to subjugate and abolish those, even to the point of conversion by the sword, having a hostile allegiance to anyone except their religious rulers. Abortion is mass slaughter and infanticide that kills innocent life
Business i supposed to stand on its own merits and succeed or fail without government picking winners and losers in a free market.
Those were formerly American Conservative views.
instead republicans are very happy spending trillions on the army aka the biggest social security fund going.
Most of the money our government spends is not on the military, but rather for the welfare state.