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Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« on: February 13, 2018, 11:58:15 AM »
Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
Kevin Diaz | February 13, 2018
https://m.chron.com/news/politics/article/Ted-Cruz-cast-lone-vote-against-advancing-12608732.php

WASHINGTON – Texas U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz stood alone Monday in voting against a GOP motion to start debate on a new immigration proposal that could resolve the standoff over "Dreamers."

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 12:06:55 PM »
They talked about this legislation on Tucker last night. Chain Migration will continue unless this issue is put up for debate. It sounds good to say "Cruz comes out against anything that would make DREAMERS citizens but in the meantime, whatever the number, 1,000,000 come in annually with chain migration and they do have a path to citizenship.

So, it continues where nothing is done on immigration reform. Even at that, it's doubtful, the votes are there to pass meaningful legislation.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 12:15:18 PM »
They talked about this legislation on Tucker last night. Chain Migration will continue unless this issue is put up for debate. It sounds good to say "Cruz comes out against anything that would make DREAMERS citizens but in the meantime, whatever the number, 1,000,000 come in annually with chain migration and they do have a path to citizenship.

So, it continues where nothing is done on immigration reform. Even at that, it's doubtful, the votes are there to pass meaningful legislation.

We don't need any more legislation!  ALL we need is for our damned laws to be enforced!

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 12:26:06 PM »
We don't need any more legislation!  ALL we need is for our damned laws to be enforced!

Bigun is right.  What do they need to talk about?
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 12:31:52 PM »
I don't give too much credence on votes for against or whatever, in most of these procedural moves because there are so  many rules around them, they could be done for many number of reasons (such as wanting to submit your own bill or proposal so you vote against moving forward to give an option to put in place a competing bill).

The media and 'unwashed masses' make far too big of a deal of procedural votes.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 12:41:11 PM »
We don't need any more legislation!  ALL we need is for our damned laws to be enforced!


So you’re fine with chain migration; because that’s under current law.

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 12:45:34 PM »
So you’re fine with chain migration; because that’s under current law.

Yes!  If it's done in strict accordance with the law which is NOT the current practice!

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 12:47:15 PM »
Yes!  If it's done in strict accordance with the law which is NOT the current practice!


Whatever.  In other words, you’re not.  You just believe in unicorns.

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 01:04:52 PM »
Whatever.  In other words, you’re not.  You just believe in unicorns.

No unicorns! Just the rule of law and strict adherence to the Constitution!

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 01:08:44 PM »
No unicorns! Just the rule of law and strict adherence to the Constitution!


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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 01:12:09 PM »
Cruz has said that he would not vote for a bill that leads to citizenship for illegals.
The "debate" will not be over whether that is done or not, only the amount of people that would be allowed amnesty.
The current proposal allows 1.8 million illegals an opportunity for citizenship.
He is right to vote no.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 01:13:37 PM »
Cruz has said that he would not vote for a bill that leads to citizenship for illegals.
The "debate" will not be over whether that is done or not, only the amount of people that would be allowed amnesty.
The current proposal allows 1.8 million illegals n opportunity for citizenship.
He is right to vote no.

Damned right he is!

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 01:48:02 PM »
We don't need any more legislation!  ALL we need is for our damned laws to be enforced!

Exactly.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2018, 01:50:08 PM »
Damned right he is!

Cruz knows more about this than most people.  Texas is the recipient of way too many waders.

I agree with him.

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2018, 01:58:09 PM »
Cruz knows more about this than most people.  Texas is the recipient of way too many waders.

I agree with him.

"Waders"

I like that.

We used to use the old "Ike" term that you can't mutter anymore.
It began with a "W", also.

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 01:59:05 PM »
"Waders"

I like that.

We used to use the old "Ike" term that you can't mutter anymore.
It began with a "W", also.

Wasn't just an Ike term...IIRC none other than Caesar Chavez used the term as well when discussing illegals.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2018, 02:09:24 PM »


Damn, Even ***** are getting into the act.

Let's just not.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2018, 02:55:21 PM »
Spichink?

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 04:54:34 PM »
Spichink?

Ain't that the noise the spittoon makes?

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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2018, 09:11:51 PM »
We don't need any more legislation!  ALL we need is for our damned laws to be enforced!


 :amen:

It would be a start, and certainly shorten "The Chain".

Illegals kept out can't squat out an anchor link of that chain.

I also note that @Oceander makes a straw man arguement.  That starting with enforcing our laws.. somehow means we cannot improve on them... like getting rid of Jus Soli. Something very few western nations do. And is a bastardization via SCOUTUs on the 14th.
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2018, 09:18:39 PM »


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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2018, 09:20:32 PM »
No unicorns! Just the rule of law and strict adherence to the Constitution!

Why do you suppose President Trump refuses to adhere to the law?  Why is he proposing a change if all he needs to do is enforce the current laws?
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Re: Ted Cruz cast lone vote against advancing 'Dreamer' legislation
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2018, 09:23:00 PM »
Whatever.  In other words, you’re not.  You just believe in unicorns.
Another completely unjointed response to a legitimate answer.

Your style stamps you well as one who foments and does not offer substance in discussion.
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