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NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« on: February 13, 2018, 10:14:16 AM »
In 2011, automakers reached an agreement with the Environmental Protection Agency, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and the California Air Resources Board to steadily improve average fuel economy between 2017 and 2025. Now, seven years later, it looks like the NHTSA is considering reducing those requirements.

Automotive News reports that the NHTSA is evaluating a variety of options, one of which would only require automakers to achieve a 35.7-mpg fleet average by 2026, about 11 mpg less than the current requirement of 46.6 mpg. Other options being evaluated would change the rules less drastically.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/nhtsa-may-drastically-reduce-fuel-economy-requirements/ar-BBIZTXF?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 10:29:40 AM »
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is looking at a range of options to lower future targets, including one that would permit an average fleetwide fuel economy standard of 35.7 miles per gallon by 2026, down from the 46.6 miles per gallon under rules charted by the Obama administration, according to a draft NHTSA analysis obtained by Bloomberg News.

Under that scenario, the agency projects an estimated 10 percent of new cars and light trucks sold in 2030 would need to be hybrid or plug-in electric to comply with the standards. That compares to 61 percent under the Obama-era proposal, according to the document.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20180210/OEM/302109995/white-house-weighs-big-cuts-to-mpg-rules
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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 10:41:20 AM »
The diminishing returns of increased MPG:

At 10 MPG you use 10 gallons to go 100 miles.

At 20 MPG you use 5 gallons to go 100 miles. A 5 gallon gain over 10 MPG.

At 40 MPG you use 2.5 gallons to go 100 miles. A 2.5 gallon gain over 20 MPG.

At 80 MPG you use 1.25 gallons to go 100 miles. A 1.25 gallon gain over 40 MPG.

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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 10:56:32 AM »
The diminishing returns of increased MPG:

At 10 MPG you use 10 gallons to go 100 miles.

At 20 MPG you use 5 gallons to go 100 miles. A 5 gallon gain over 10 MPG.

At 40 MPG you use 2.5 gallons to go 100 miles. A 2.5 gallon gain over 20 MPG.

At 80 MPG you use 1.25 gallons to go 100 miles. A 1.25 gallon gain over 40 MPG.

IMO its not about saving gas.  Its about making cars smaller and more expensive.
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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 12:50:05 PM »
IMO its not about saving gas.

Or about saving the planet.

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Its about making cars smaller and more expensive.

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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 04:05:49 PM »
In 2011, automakers reached an agreement with the Environmental Protection Agency, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and the California Air Resources Board to steadily improve average fuel economy between 2017 and 2025. Now, seven years later, it looks like the NHTSA is considering reducing those requirements.

Automotive News reports that the NHTSA is evaluating a variety of options, one of which would only require automakers to achieve a 35.7-mpg fleet average by 2026, about 11 mpg less than the current requirement of 46.6 mpg. Other options being evaluated would change the rules less drastically.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/nhtsa-may-drastically-reduce-fuel-economy-requirements/ar-BBIZTXF?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 04:10:33 PM »
Cali used to have enough power to command automakers adhere to the draconian CARB requirements in order to sell cars in the Motherland.  It is time for the Car Makers to call the States Bluff.  Don't sell cars in Cali. 
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Re: NHTSA may drastically reduce fuel economy requirements
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 06:55:29 PM »
This is EXCELLENT news.

When these regulations were imposed by the democrat-communists, they had nothing to do with reality or physics. They were simply numbers that were designed to:
- end the production of gasoline-powered cars
- make those few cars capable of meeting such requirements tiny and all-but unusable
- make them unaffordable for average folk
- restrict the movement of much of the population.

Even a 35mpg fleet average is too high.
28-30 would be realistic.

By the way, let the "new slavery" states like California demand whatever they wish. Carmakers will either limit sales there, or... pull out of those states entirely.


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