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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2018, 01:58:41 am »
@sanquine

I'm not the guy you asked the question of, but I will tell you that if I were in charge anyone here illegally would not be getting any government benefits at all and, in addation to that, would not be able to get a job, rent a place to live, or obtain anything else that would aid their illegal presence here.

Exactly what I meant by "removing the magnets".

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2018, 02:01:34 am »
Exactly what I meant by "removing the magnets".
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2018, 02:02:41 am »
This link  https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269051/making-california-mexico-again-lloyd-billingsley
MAKING CALIFORNIA MEXICO AGAIN
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from article "California resists isolation and is willing to step up and work with Mexico if the federal administration abdicates that responsibility.”

Show how alien to our Constitution one state has chose to be.

Other states must be able to defend themselves against an unscrupulous state as California has become if the federal govt chooses not to.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2018, 02:54:43 am »
Shame, at TOS, a lot of those folks imply a lot of California's votes for the Senate, Presidency, etc. are illegally done and those residents of that state think things might go differently if there were a clampdown. I have no idea myself. It sounds possible.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2018, 03:41:12 am »
Shame, at TOS, a lot of those folks imply a lot of California's votes for the Senate, Presidency, etc. are illegally done and those residents of that state think things might go differently if there were a clampdown. I have no idea myself. It sounds possible.

I agree with you, Tom, except that I think it's probable. 

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2018, 07:39:05 am »
Shame, at TOS, a lot of those folks imply a lot of California's votes for the Senate, Presidency, etc. are illegally done and those residents of that state think things might go differently if there were a clampdown. I have no idea myself. It sounds possible.

So all those millions of liberals aren't voting liberal?
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2018, 12:40:22 pm »
So all those millions of liberals aren't voting liberal?

Where did he say that? 

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2018, 01:03:08 pm »
Where did he say that?

The clear implication is that voter fraud is why the Dems have such a stranglehold on California.   While I would agree there is significant voter fraud there, as in many other places, I doubt it is the sole reason for the stranglehold.   Else why would some of the recent conservative movements have been voted in.

No there is voter fraud but much more clearly there is fraud within the Executive and Legislative branches of CA govt.  They have sold the population on socialist policies and have been working to undercut American law for decades.   The activists are in control and working to make southern california part of mexico.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2018, 01:03:33 pm »
So all those millions of liberals aren't voting liberal?
I think the question might be one of whether some significant part of that contingent isn't eligible by the standards of the other states to vote at all. Clean up the voter rolls and only let citizens vote and the results might be different (even if that does not so heavily favor the Democrat/Communist/Liberal agenda).

Let people in from elsewhere to vote for people from elsewhere to loot the treasury, not only of one state, but by extension, all of them (via the Federal Government) and you have a formula for economic destruction.

Not that California has demonstrated a great deal of fiscal wisdom, anyway, but if the State goes bankrupt, should the rest be required to bail it out if it will not follow the same laws as the rest?
Oh, Hell no.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2018, 01:28:12 pm »



No there is voter fraud but much more clearly there is fraud within the Executive and Legislative branches of CA govt.  They have sold the population on socialist policies and have been working to undercut American law for decades.   The activists are in control and working to make southern california part of mexico.

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Close,but no cigar. Politicians are too greedy and power-mad for that to be possible. Not to mention egotistical.

IMNSHO,the Ca politicians have been working hard to make MEXICO A PART OF CALIFORNIA so they have even more parasites to steal money from. Of course,they plan on using US Federal grant and tax money to buy all the Mexican votes in what is now Mexico,just like they have been using it to buy Mexican votes from illegals in Ca.

Ain't nothing a couple of hundred hangings after treason trials won't fix,though.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2018, 01:30:13 pm »
I think the question might be one of whether some significant part of that contingent isn't eligible by the standards of the other states to vote at all. Clean up the voter rolls and only let citizens vote and the results might be different (even if that does not so heavily favor the Democrat/Communist/Liberal agenda).

Let people in from elsewhere to vote for people from elsewhere to loot the treasury, not only of one state, but by extension, all of them (via the Federal Government) and you have a formula for economic destruction.

Not that California has demonstrated a great deal of fiscal wisdom, anyway, but if the State goes bankrupt, should the rest be required to bail it out if it will not follow the same laws as the rest?
Oh, Hell no.

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Go back to a system where only property owners are allowed to vote,and require English literacy tests. No speaka de lingo,no pulla in welfare checks.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2018, 01:33:33 pm »
@driftdiver

Close,but no cigar. Politicians are too greedy and power-mad for that to be possible. Not to mention egotistical.

IMNSHO,the Ca politicians have been working hard to make MEXICO A PART OF CALIFORNIA so they have even more parasites to steal money from. Of course,they plan on using US Federal grant and tax money to buy all the Mexican votes in what is now Mexico,just like they have been using it to buy Mexican votes from illegals in Ca.

Ain't nothing a couple of hundred hangings after treason trials won't fix,though.

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I thought that as well at one point.   However in all their mechanizations they seek to undercut American nationality. So while they love our benefits and dollars they consider the Mexican people to be superior (i.e. La Raza).  Because of that i don't see them submitting to the US.   
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2018, 01:39:30 pm »
@sneakypete
I thought that as well at one point.   However in all their mechanizations they seek to undercut American nationality. So while they love our benefits and dollars they consider the Mexican people to be superior (i.e. La Raza).  Because of that i don't see them submitting to the US.

@driftdiver

Look at Mexico. It has been ran by white people ever since the Spanish landed,and even today they still live like royalty since the laws don't apply to them. They run it and use the national treasury like a personal slush fund,and nobody seems to really give a damn. The two brothers that were (1 is dead now) Bush Crime Family friends that JEB and his Mexican wife vacationed with stole Billions from the Mexican treasury before fleeing to exile in France. That was the one JEB's wife was visiting when she was arrested for smuggling jewelry and furs past customs without paying customs fees on while JEB was still the Governor of Fla.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2018, 02:07:30 pm »
The clear implication is that voter fraud is why the Dems have such a stranglehold on California.   While I would agree there is significant voter fraud there, as in many other places, I doubt it is the sole reason for the stranglehold.   Else why would some of the recent conservative movements have been voted in.

No there is voter fraud but much more clearly there is fraud within the Executive and Legislative branches of CA govt.  They have sold the population on socialist policies and have been working to undercut American law for decades.   The activists are in control and working to make southern california part of mexico.

OK, I didn't see it that way, but obviously you did.  And, I agree with the points in your second paragraph.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2018, 07:52:05 pm »
I think the question might be one of whether some significant part of that contingent isn't eligible by the standards of the other states to vote at all. Clean up the voter rolls and only let citizens vote and the results might be different (even if that does not so heavily favor the Democrat/Communist/Liberal agenda).

Let people in from elsewhere to vote for people from elsewhere to loot the treasury, not only of one state, but by extension, all of them (via the Federal Government) and you have a formula for economic destruction.

Not that California has demonstrated a great deal of fiscal wisdom, anyway, but if the State goes bankrupt, should the rest be required to bail it out if it will not follow the same laws as the rest?
Oh, Hell no.

The state technically went bankrupt a number of years ago when it was issuing IOU's as payments.

When the tech bubble bursts, California's going to go with it.

Regarding lefties in CA, back when prop 187 was passed by the voters blocking public benefits to illegals the lefties went federal judge shopping finding one who said it was unconstitutional because only the federal government has the authority to deal with illegals and states have to treat everyone equally regardless of citizenship.

Now fast forward a couple decades and we have these same lefties demanding that the federal government has no authority over illegals in their states demanding states have the right to give special rights to illegals...

And there it is... Lefties don't care about state rights or federal authority. The ends justify the means always with them no matter how contrary. And the ends is more dependent people to empower their masters ensnaring all of us.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2018, 08:14:50 pm »
Just do it.  It is a clear violation of federal law.

The sooner we see these people in chains, the sooner we get rid of the problem.


These people think they are untouchable. 

They are wrong.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2018, 01:00:06 am »
Just do it.  It is a clear violation of federal law.

The sooner we see these people in chains, the sooner we get rid of the problem.


These people think they are untouchable. 

They are wrong.
Well, they have spent decades building and nurturing the mob they think will protect them (in order to keep their freebies). They have just multiculturalized that mob. I had never thought it before, but it possible that CWII could be fought over people thinking that the rest of the country owes them a living, even if they aren't Americans.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2018, 01:52:36 am »
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Go back to a system where only property owners are allowed to vote,and require English literacy tests. No speaka de lingo,no pulla in welfare checks.
If you can't understand the language, you can't understand the seminal documents which lay out how this is all supposed to work. If you can't do that, you can't possibly make an informed decision as to what is or isn't good for the country. While people do, it is akin to operating a complex piece of machinery without even being able to read the directions when all else fails.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2018, 02:29:52 am »
Why spend millions on programs to teach English as a second language when it isn't adequately being taught as a first language in many areas? Time to get our priorities straight and look after our own. If people from elsewhere wnat to join up and become Americans, let them do it right.

Just look at the comments on any youtube video.

It's become a Contest to see how Badly you can mangle English. The worse you abuse it, the Cooler you are.

Gonna require, at some point, the elimination of tenure for Teachers, and all their siphoned off Union Dues.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2018, 02:54:51 am »
Just look at the comments on any youtube video.

It's become a Contest to see how Badly you can mangle English. The worse you abuse it, the Cooler you are.

Gonna require, at some point, the elimination of tenure for Teachers, and all their siphoned off Union Dues.
I concur. For the schools we have, and the amount spent, we have a less literate population than we did 50 years ago.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2018, 02:00:41 pm »
If you can't understand the language, you can't understand the seminal documents which lay out how this is all supposed to work. If you can't do that, you can't possibly make an informed decision as to what is or isn't good for the country. While people do, it is akin to operating a complex piece of machinery without even being able to read the directions when all else fails.
And therein exists the lies that 'Diversity' is so good and necessary for us all.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2018, 04:02:40 pm »

  The activists are in control and working to make southern california part of mexico.

@driftdiver

Close,but no cigar. The activist leadership think they are the reincarnation of Karl Marx,and are going to establish a worldwide communist government WITH THEM RUNNING THE POLITBURO.

In other words,they see Mexico coming under THEIR domain,not the other way around. Mexico is already pretty much a police state,so they see it and access to the Mexican treasury and military as easy pickings. Hell,Mexicans are even used to having white masters.

A good rule to follow is that anytime you think a leftist is willing to share anything,that is a good first clue you  need to rethink it. They are about domination,not sharing. After all,they are the smartest,most competent,and the fairest people in the world and their only concern is about the good of the common man,so who else would be better qualified to establish the dictatorship the whole world needs in order to become a loving and fair family with a firm "Daddy" in charge to make sure things were fair?
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2018, 04:16:41 pm »
So when are these supposed arrests happening? or is this another conservative media BS story?

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2018, 04:21:55 pm »
So when are these supposed arrests happening? or is this another conservative media BS story?


DC is still recovering from that withering shutdown.  They were deemed non-essential arrests.
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« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2018, 04:27:20 pm »

DC is still recovering from that withering shutdown.  They were deemed non-essential arrests.

 :laugh:

So, I clicked on a federal website yesterday to look something up, and there in big text was a long explanation as to how because of the shutdown the website was unavailable. 

They really do think we are idiots.