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DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« on: January 16, 2018, 07:19:59 pm »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/16/dhs-asks-prosecutors-charge-sanctuary-city-leaders/

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen confirmed Tuesday that her department has asked federal prosecutors to see if they can lodge criminal charges against sanctuary cities that refuse to cooperate with federal deportation efforts.

“The Department of Justice is reviewing what avenues may be available,” Ms. Nielsen told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Her confirmation came after California’s new sanctuary law went into effect Jan. 1, severely restricting cooperation the state or any of its localities could offer.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2018, 07:43:55 pm »
It's about time.

The cells they are thrown in should be where some of the illegals are also thrown in, so they can analyze more closely who it is they are defending.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2018, 07:52:30 pm »
It's about time.

The cells they are thrown in should be where some of the illegals are also thrown in, so they can analyze more closely who it is they are defending.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2018, 07:54:54 pm »
Not one will spend 24 hours in a jail cell.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2018, 07:58:40 pm »
Not one will spend 24 hours in a jail cell.

Perhaps but I can think of several possible charges.

- obstruction of justice
- conspiracy
- accessory to murder in individual cases
- probably falls under RICO
- since they are taking federal money I'm sure corruption charges are there somewhere

I'm sure a motivated prosecutor could think of plenty more.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2018, 07:59:25 pm »
Not one will spend 24 hours in a jail cell.

It's just as well.   If it did happen, I'm sure the idiot left would be accusing Trump of running things like a Nazi would.  Much better to levee hefty fines ... hit them where it really hurts... their wallets.
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DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2018, 08:11:26 pm »
 By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen confirmed Tuesday that her department has asked federal prosecutors to see if they can lodge criminal charges against sanctuary cities that refuse to cooperate with federal deportation efforts.

“The Department of Justice is reviewing what avenues may be available,” Ms. Nielsen told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Her confirmation came after California’s new sanctuary law went into effect Jan. 1, severely restricting cooperation the state or any of its localities could offer.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Tom Homan says those policies put his officers and local communities at more risk because they have to arrest illegal immigrants out in the community.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 08:17:14 pm »
It's just as well.   If it did happen, I'm sure the idiot left would be accusing Trump of running things like a Nazi would.  Much better to levee hefty fines ... hit them where it really hurts... their wallets.

Any good liberal would go to jail rather than compromise their principles.   Lock the bastards up!  I wanna see the bitches cry and scream bloody hell.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 08:23:04 pm »
Wouldn't that be something!

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 08:27:36 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 08:29:15 pm »
Any good liberal would go to jail rather than compromise their principles.   Lock the bastards up!  I wanna see the bitches cry and scream bloody hell.

Too bad they don't have the kind of commitment that Bobby Sands did.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 08:51:15 pm »
Rather than simply saying "It'll never happen" why don't we say "bout dang time" and give our Congressional lazy butts a call.   Maybe put it on social media, heck do anything to encourage enforcement of the actual laws.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 09:06:39 pm »
Rather than simply saying "It'll never happen" why don't we say "bout dang time" and give our Congressional lazy butts a call.   Maybe put it on social media, heck do anything to encourage enforcement of the actual laws.


It is about time, because this is what we were promised….



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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 09:39:28 pm »

It is about time, because this is what we were promised….



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I try to be realistic, the federal govt moves slow.

I knew a director of an agency at one point.  She told me things that took 30 seconds in her prior commercial positions took 6 months working for the feds.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 09:41:58 pm »
I try to be realistic, the federal govt moves slow.

I knew a director of an agency at one point.  She told me things that took 30 seconds in her prior commercial positions took 6 months working for the feds.


Too true. Anyone who has been in the military is familiar with the concept of hurry up and wait.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2018, 09:45:25 pm »
Any good liberal would go to jail rather than compromise their principles.   Lock the bastards up!  I wanna see the bitches cry and scream bloody hell.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 11:21:46 pm »
Lock them up!

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 11:29:01 pm »
Any good liberal would go to jail rather than compromise their principles.   Lock the bastards up!  I wanna see the bitches cry and scream bloody hell.
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2018, 03:01:06 am »
This is a very bad idea and a very bad president if implemented. It baffles me that anyone who calls themselves a conservative would think that its ok for the federal government to bring criminal charges against local officials for failing to enforce federal laws against the citizens of that locality.

I understand the emotional response but think about it, say sometime in the not to distant future, the Feds criminalize ownership of guns by anyone over 65 who cannot prove they do not suffer from dementia. The local officials in retirement communities  refuse to enforce the Federal law. Using this precedent a future Dim administration comes in and locks up the local officials...

The way (and I don't like it ) to get local/state governments to comply with Federal law is by withholding Federal funding .. :shrug:

Criminalizing the actions of locally elected officials defying Federal law is not the way to go and is an unconstitutional usurpation of local control by the Feds.....
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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 03:09:51 am »
This is a very bad idea and a very bad president if implemented. It baffles me that anyone who calls themselves a conservative would think that its ok for the federal government to bring criminal charges against local officials for failing to enforce federal laws against the citizens of that locality.

I understand the emotional response but think about it, say sometime in the not to distant future, the Feds criminalize ownership of guns by anyone over 65 who cannot prove they do not suffer from dementia. The local officials in retirement communities  refuse to enforce the Federal law. Using this precedent a future Dim administration comes in and locks up the local officials...

The way (and I don't like it ) to get local/state governments to comply with Federal law is by withholding Federal funding .. :shrug:

Criminalizing the actions of locally elected officials defying Federal law is not the way to go and is an unconstitutional usurpation of local control by the Feds.....


I understand what you're saying, but look at it this way.  If Federal Marshals come to your house to arrest a fugitive and you refuse to comply, you're getting arrested and charged for harboring.  That's exactly what they're doing with open defiance like this.....


In Boston, Mayor Marty Walsh called the executive order an attack on "Boston’s people, Boston’s strength and Boston’s values.”

“If people want to live here, they’ll live here,” Walsh told reporters at a news conference. “They can use my office. They can use any office in this building.”


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/25/big-us-city-mayors-vow-defy-trump-sanctuary-cities-order/97066272/
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 03:13:07 am »
This is a very bad idea and a very bad president if implemented. It baffles me that anyone who calls themselves a conservative would think that its ok for the federal government to bring criminal charges against local officials for failing to enforce federal laws against the citizens of that locality.

I understand the emotional response but think about it, say sometime in the not to distant future, the Feds criminalize ownership of guns by anyone over 65 who cannot prove they do not suffer from dementia. The local officials in retirement communities  refuse to enforce the Federal law. Using this precedent a future Dim administration comes in and locks up the local officials...

The way (and I don't like it ) to get local/state governments to comply with Federal law is by withholding Federal funding .. :shrug:

Criminalizing the actions of locally elected officials defying Federal law is not the way to go and is an unconstitutional usurpation of local control by the Feds.....

To the contrary, such prosecution would be reassuring. Anyone - private citizens, elected officials, fat assed local bureaucrats - ANYONE should be subject to the same penalties for breaking federal laws.

If a private employer thumbs his nose at federal immigration laws he should be punished. Likewise public officials.


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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 03:15:44 am »
Too bad they don't have the kind of commitment that Bobby Sands did.

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2018, 03:30:51 am »
It's just as well.   If it did happen, I'm sure the idiot left would be accusing Trump of running things like a Nazi would.

Who in the hell cares what the idiot left thinks about it?

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Re: DHS preparing to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2018, 04:52:04 am »
This is a very bad idea and a very bad president if implemented. It baffles me that anyone who calls themselves a conservative would think that its ok for the federal government to bring criminal charges against local officials for failing to enforce federal laws against the citizens of that locality.

I understand the emotional response but think about it, say sometime in the not to distant future, the Feds criminalize ownership of guns by anyone over 65 who cannot prove they do not suffer from dementia. The local officials in retirement communities  refuse to enforce the Federal law. Using this precedent a future Dim administration comes in and locks up the local officials...

The way (and I don't like it ) to get local/state governments to comply with Federal law is by withholding Federal funding .. :shrug:

Criminalizing the actions of locally elected officials defying Federal law is not the way to go and is an unconstitutional usurpation of local control by the Feds.....

Frankly I'm glad my state is refusing to comply with some federal environmental laws.