How Should Honest Conservatives Decide the Roy Moore Case Come Election Day?

[SirLinksALot]

I see nothin' wrong with a guy in his early 30's going after 17 or 18-year olds if he can win them. Those who disagree can kiss my greasy butt.

The issue is not his dating them. In fact, according to what we know, he ASKED one of the girl's parents for permission to date her.
That was an honorable thing to do.

The issue would be:

* What did he do with/to them during the date?

* Then there's the matter of the then 14 year old ( who seems to be not credible based on her record of divorces, bankruptcies, etc. )

* Then there's the matter of the then 16 year old who claims he sexually assaulted her. Of course this woman's step son has come out and called her a LIAR.

See here:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/stepson-roy-moore-accuser-says-shes-lying-stand-behind-judge-100-video/

[SirLinksALot]

Like the Tom T. Hall song goes:
Faster horses...
Younger women...
Older whiskey...
More money.

Well, there are the Beatles songs:

I SAW HER STANDING THERE:

Well, she was just 17
You know what I mean
And the way she looked was way beyond compare
So how could I dance with another (Ooh)
When I saw her standing there

Well she looked at me, and I, I could see
That before too long I'd fall in love with her
She wouldn't dance with another (Whooh)
When I saw her standing there

Well, my heart went "boom"
When I crossed that room
And I held her hand in mine...

Whoah, we danced through the night
And we held each other tight
And before too long I fell in love with her
Now I'll never dance with another (Whooh)
Since I saw her standing there

And then there's the hit song: YOU'RE 16, YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL AND YOU'RE MINE: (Made popular again by Ringo Starr )

You come on like a dream, peaches and cream
Lips like strawberry wine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine

You're all ribbons and curls, ooh, what a girl
Eyes that sparkle and shine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine

You're my baby, you're my pet
We fell in love on the night we met
You touched my hand, my heart went pop
Ooh, when we kissed I could not stop

You walked out of my dreams and into my arms
Now you're my angel divine
You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine

All mine, all mine, all mine
All mine, all mine, all mine

WHY WEREN'T PEOPLE CALLING THE ABOVE LYRICS IMMORAL WHEN THEY WERE RADIO HITS?

[bilo]

Easy.  Look at the historical record.  The last 40 years of a proven Roy Moore in office vs some unsubstantiated claims from virtually unknowns.

Use the Clarence Thomas model and he will overcome.

The problem is the Pub party rallied around Justice Thomas. Today they have abandoned Justice Moore.

[Victoria33]

Better than fair. Unless somebody actually proves something, I'll bet he'll win

@roamer_1

Latest poll Democrat is 9 points ahead.

[Fantom]

A Honest Conservative, votes for him. Anything less lets innuendo/regressive tactics win.

If this was true... would have come out long before now.... and certainly before just weeks from election.

Shame on anyone who lets this crap influence their vote...shame.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Latest poll Democrat is 9 points ahead.

@Victoria33

Latest poll is by the NRSC - an organ of McConnell and senate leadership.
I don't believe it. McConnell has an axe to grind.

RCP average is Moore +3
Two actual polls have been done since this load of crap came down. One is Moore +6 and the other is Moore +10.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html

[Bigun]

A Honest Conservative, votes for him. Anything less lets innuendo/regressive tactics win.

If this was true... would have come out long before now.... and certainly before just weeks from election.

Shame on anyone who lets this crap influence their vote...shame.

Absolutely agree!  100%  The whole thing REEKS of political hit job!

[roamer_1]

A Honest Conservative, votes for him. Anything less lets innuendo/regressive tactics win.

If this was true... would have come out long before now.... and certainly before just weeks from election.

Shame on anyone who lets this crap influence their vote...shame.

That's right.

[Cyber Liberty]

A Honest Conservative, votes for him. Anything less lets innuendo/regressive tactics win.

If this was true... would have come out long before now.... and certainly before just weeks from election.

Shame on anyone who lets this crap influence their vote...shame.

I really don't see much point in voting anymore, if people can be simply bumped off ballots because somebody created a scandal.  Certainly not a lot of point in running for anything.

[Bigun]

I really don't see much point in voting anymore, if people can be simply bumped off ballots because somebody created a scandal.  Certainly not a lot of point in running for anything.

And that Sir is the ENTIRE explanation of WHY it's being done!  They don't WANT anyone they don't hand pick running for anything ever again!

[Cyber Liberty]

@Victoria33

Latest poll is by the NRSC - an organ of McConnell and senate leadership.
I don't believe it. McConnell has an axe to grind.

RCP average is Moore +3
Two actual polls have been done since this load of crap came down. One is Moore +6 and the other is Moore +10.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/senate/al/alabama_senate_special_election_moore_vs_jones-6271.html

Is that before or after the latest batch of scandal?

[Cyber Liberty]

And that Sir is the ENTIRE explanation of WHY it's being done!  They don't WANT anyone they don't hand pick running for anything ever again!

Yeah, I thought this was pretty well established after the Akin thing. 

"If voting made any difference, it would be illegal."

[Fantom]

I really don't see much point in voting anymore, if people can be simply bumped off ballots because somebody created a scandal.  Certainly not a lot of point in running for anything.

Well, when the ballot box is closed off. It only leaves the last box.

[Bigun]

Well, when the ballot box is closed off. It only leaves the last box.

Yeah and I'm a little long in the tooth for that!

[Fantom]

Yeah and I'm a little long in the tooth for that!

Me Too    

Still, I can make you more than nervous at 500 yrd.... with ironsights. I'll have to leave maneuver to the kids though.

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33

@roamer_1

Women are dumping him - I knew they would; that poll for Democrat +9 is right.  I checked how they did it.  They called households who voted in the general election. It was a fair poll.

Once women walk into the voting booth - they will not vote for him.  Just like they won't say anything when accosted by men, they won't necessarily tell anyone they won't vote for him - but when in the booth, they either won't vote for either or they will vote for the Dem.  If Moore wins, it will be because more men came out to vote for him than voted for him the last time. This has become a women vs. men election.  That is the psychology that has taken over.  Saw five women interviewed yesterday, they have all changed their vote.

[Cyber Liberty]

@roamer_1

Women are dumping him - I knew they would; that poll for Democrat +9 is right.  I checked how they did it.  They called households who voted in the general election. It was a fair poll.

Once women walk into the voting booth - they will not vote for him.  Just like they won't say anything when accosted by men, they won't necessarily tell anyone they won't vote for him - but when in the booth, they either won't vote for either or they will vote for the Dem.  If Moore wins, it will be because more men came out to vote for him than voted for him the last time. This has become a women vs. men election.  That is the psychology that has taken over.  Saw five women interviewed yesterday, they have all changed their vote.

That's the beauty of a sex scandal. 

[Bigun]

Me Too    

Still, I can make you more than nervous at 500 yrd.... with ironsights. I'll have to leave maneuver to the kids though.

I'm not going to get into what I can do but I will say 500 yards is a chip shot.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Women are dumping him - I knew they would; that poll for Democrat +9 is right.  I checked how they did it.  They called households who voted in the general election. It was a fair poll.

Once women walk into the voting booth - they will not vote for him.  Just like they won't say anything when accosted by men, they won't necessarily tell anyone they won't vote for him - but when in the booth, they either won't vote for either or they will vote for the Dem.  If Moore wins, it will be because more men came out to vote for him than voted for him the last time. This has become a women vs. men election.  That is the psychology that has taken over.  Saw five women interviewed yesterday, they have all changed their vote.

@Victoria33

I don't buy it for a minute. And I don't think Alabamans will either.
They are pretty used to city folks telling em what for, and the reaction to that will always be the same.

[Fantom]

I'm not going to get into what I can do but I will say 500 yards is a chip shot.

Wait a minute..we are talking golf right... right?   

[Bigun]

Wait a minute..we are talking golf right... right?   

Of course!  Why would anyone think otherwise?   

[Victoria33]

Is that before or after the latest batch of scandal?

@Cyber Liberty

Here is the very latest - Moore is down 12 points.

"A new poll from the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the campaign arm of the Senate Republicans, has Moore trailing his Democratic opponent Doug Jones by 12 points, percentage points, 51% to 39%, according to data obtained by TIME. The poll was first reported by Politico.
The poll was conducted among 500 registered voters. November 12 and 13, three and four days after the Washington Post published its story detailing accounts from four women about the way Mooore pursued them when they were teenagers. Also on November 13, a fifth accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, came forward with allegations that Moore had assaulted her when she was sixteen and he was a District Attorney."

That is the women vote dumping him.

[Fantom]

Of course!  Why would anyone think otherwise?   

Ah yes, a hole in one. Best shot in golf...Evar.

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33

I don't buy it for a minute. And I don't think Alabamans will either.
They are pretty used to city folks telling em what for, and the reaction to that will always be the same.

@roamer_1

You are a lot of things, all good, but you are not a woman.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

Here is the very latest - Moore is down 12 points.

"A new poll from the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the campaign arm of the Senate Republicans, has Moore trailing his Democratic opponent Doug Jones by 12 points, percentage points, 51% to 39%, according to data obtained by TIME. The poll was first reported by Politico.
The poll was conducted among 500 registered voters. November 12 and 13, three and four days after the Washington Post published its story detailing accounts from four women about the way Mooore pursued them when they were teenagers. Also on November 13, a fifth accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, came forward with allegations that Moore had assaulted her when she was sixteen and he was a District Attorney."

That is the women vote dumping him.

Yup.  It's a beautiful thing.  You know we'll never find out the truth, right?