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« on: November 10, 2017, 03:11:43 pm »
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All "97% Consensus" Studies Refuted by Peer-Review

After showing how 97 articles thoroughly refuted the most prominent "consensus" study, Cook et al. (2013), consensus proponents inevitably moved the goal posts and fell back on other "97% consensus" studies: Doran & Zimmerman (2009), Anderegg et al. (2010) and Oreskes (2004) (which is really a 100% consensus study). However, these have all been thoroughly refuted in the scholarly literature and the following are the refutations of them.

Update: Since this article was first published additional studies have been used to perpetuate the long-debunked "97% consensus" talking point, such as Verheggen et al. (2014). While others like Stenhouse et al. (2014) actually demonstrated a marginal 52% consensus.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2014/12/all-97-consensus-studies-refuted-by.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 02:54:22 am »
INDEED. That anyone would put blind trust in any current "scientific" "peer reviewed" paper is merely a testimony to the effectiveness of the oligarchy's transfer of trust from spiritual institutions to secular--oligarchy controlled--institutions.

One MUST check into the details of the design of the studies;  how they were carried out; the biases of the authors;  selection of the organisms/people as subjects; the design of questionnaires; the statistical analyses; the logic of the summaries and conclusions; the applicability of the conclusions to society at large; etc. etc. etc.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 04:20:12 am »
INDEED. That anyone would put blind trust in any current "scientific" "peer reviewed" paper is merely a testimony to the effectiveness of the oligarchy's transfer of trust from spiritual institutions to secular--oligarchy controlled--institutions.

One MUST check into the details of the design of the studies;  how they were carried out; the biases of the authors;  selection of the organisms/people as subjects; the design of questionnaires; the statistical analyses; the logic of the summaries and conclusions; the applicability of the conclusions to society at large; etc. etc. etc.
Precisely. It is simply amazing how often the data do not support the conclusions, or at best provide a tenuous correlation between events which are presented as being in a cause-effect relationship.
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Re: All "97% Consensus" Studies Refuted by Peer-Review
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 04:40:04 am »
Science by position of authority isn't science at all.

All it takes is one person - from anywhere regardless of education or position - to come up with a test and results that is counter to the prevailing theory that is repeatable and that prevailing theory is done no matter what the "consensus" is. That is how science works.

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 05:07:11 am »
Science by position of authority isn't science at all.

All it takes is one person - from anywhere regardless of education or position - to come up with a test and results that is counter to the prevailing theory that is repeatable and that prevailing theory is done no matter what the "consensus" is. That is how science works.
Yep. It has to work every time or there has to be an explanation for that.
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Re: All "97% Consensus" Studies Refuted by Peer-Review
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 05:20:15 am »
Precisely. It is simply amazing how often the data do not support the conclusions, or at best provide a tenuous correlation between events which are presented as being in a cause-effect relationship.

Science seldom supports it's conclusions anymore. A theory used to be published with its errata. Anymore, the errata is swept under the rug and everything subjected to a knowledge filter in the in the shape of 'current consensus'. Group-think with tenure.

But if just one meaningful piece of errata comes to light, the whole mess would come crashing down.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 06:22:15 am »
Science seldom supports it's conclusions anymore. A theory used to be published with its errata. Anymore, the errata is swept under the rug and everything subjected to a knowledge filter in the in the shape of 'current consensus'. Group-think with tenure.

But if just one meaningful piece of errata comes to light, the whole mess would come crashing down.
Note, too, there was a time when anyone could freely gain access to those studies, their conclusions, even the data, and study it for themselves, even if they didn't have a doctorate, and were not associated with any university. Science dared stand in the square before the ordinary man, and simplify his world, if it could. Now it obfuscates the language it is written in (not mere technical jargon, but obfuscation) to deter the rank and file, hides its data, and cowers behind a paywall throwing edicts over the fence.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 06:27:25 am »
Now it obfuscates the language it is written in (not mere technical jargon, but obfuscation) to deter the rank and file, hides its data, and cowers behind a paywall throwing edicts over the fence.

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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 06:31:57 am »
Men in robes reading runic figures, muttering arcane sentences, within ancient towers... It's always the same...

(Present company excepted, of course.)
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 06:32:57 am »
If not towers, temples...
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