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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2017, 10:03:52 pm »
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2017, 10:08:16 pm »
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/cronkites-vietnam-blunder-7185

I think we can establish a series of events which emboldened Communist leadership, contributed to the momentum of the anti-war movement, and altered policy because of that.
Cronkite was piped into a lot of living rooms in the US, and his remarks affected the way people viewed the war. He classified it as "unwinnable" in the midst of the growing antiwar movement. That propaganda victory overshadowed the military victory that was the result of the Tet Offensive.

That, in turn, resulted in altered policy, and the Democrat desire to leave Vietnam contributed heavily to the political climate that had people from the same Party in Congress which had escalated the war in the first place pull the military support rug from under the South Vietnamese, leaving the NVA to walk in virtually unopposed.

I apologize for coming off so snarky with my rolling eyes emoji.

IMO, he was one of three anchors who brought us the news every night.  Certainly not enough to sway America.

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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2017, 10:13:39 pm »
I apologize for coming off so snarky with my rolling eyes emoji.

IMO, he was one of ONLY three anchors who brought us the news every night.  Certainly not enough to sway America.

Fixed it for you!
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2017, 10:18:28 pm »
Fixed it for you!

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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2017, 10:37:35 pm »
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2017, 11:20:43 pm »
This appears to be a false news story and, considering the source and the poster, likely is.
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2017, 11:23:13 pm »
Methinks the Mandalay Bay shooting is going to rival the Kennedy assassination for "conspiracy theories" for decades to come.

The problem with the Las Vegas shooting is that there isn't enough "there" there. Unless there is information in the hands of the authorities that they haven't revealed, the shooter left essentially nothing behind which could explain his motivations. A case 180 degrees removed from someone like the Unabomber, and his manifesto.

But let's apply Occam's razor:
I don't think "the authorities" know much more about Stephen Paddock than we do.

His girlfriend may know something; perhaps the talkative brother as well. But that's "hearsay" evidence. Paddock kept his dark thoughts and plans to himself.

Some questions I'd like answered:
1. Of the 12 rifles found in the hotel room that had been fitted with bump stocks, how many of them had been fired?
2. How many spent cartridges were found in the hotel room?
3. Of those found, how many from each fired rifle?
4. How many magazines were used, and what was the capacity of each?
5. Do all the bullets recovered from the concert area match those rifles from the hotel room (to the extent that such comparisons are possible)?

Surely the investigators have compiled such info by now.
Has anyone asked these questions publicly of them?

What I would like to know is how could they dismiss terrorism as a motive twelve hours after the event. Why did they put out the trial balloon "we may never know the motive" after 48 hours? What was on the several computers and phones and electronic devices found in the room and at both homes? How did his Reno home get broken into when it was guarded? Why is he the only human to make millions playing video poker when the odds are always with the house? Why has no video of him in Mandalay Bay or any other casino been released? Why no more press conferences? Is anyone in the media pushing for answers?

This case is decidedly odd.
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #82 on: October 23, 2017, 11:24:11 pm »
I apologize for coming off so snarky with my rolling eyes emoji.

IMO, he was one of three anchors who brought us the news every night.  Certainly not enough to sway America.
In much of America he was one of two (Counting Huntley and Brinkley as one because they were on the same show).  In other parts there was only one channel. Life in the land past the end of the great sidewalk in 1968 was like that. :shrug:

He didn't have to sway all of America, and certainly didn't. He only had to turn enough people to get Democrats who promised to end the war (however that came about) elected. Mothers of hippychicks were particularly vulnerable at the time, at least in some areas, and the whole "White man's war" thing gained significant momentum after Cronkite announced the war could not be won. His comment probably did more than any other statement made during the war to aid the North Vietnamese.
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #83 on: October 23, 2017, 11:28:59 pm »
This appears to be a false news story and, considering the source and the poster, likely is.
I'd say it was a misinterpretation of fact, without other testimony or evidence that there was a shooter there. People jump to incorrect conclusions so often in America it should be n Olympic sport.

The video is what it is, and the raw, full length video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JwEbBMt-Q
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #84 on: October 23, 2017, 11:33:31 pm »
This appears to be a false news story and, considering the source and the poster, likely is.

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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2017, 12:45:21 am »
Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting

https://townhall.com/notebook/stevesheldon/2017/10/05/please-stop-with-the-conspiracy-theories-regarding-the-las-vegas-shooting-n2390700

8 Important Questions Las Vegas Conspiracy Theorists Should Consider

https://townhall.com/notebook/stevesheldon/2017/10/11/a-few-questions-for-las-vegas-conspiracy-theorists-n2392346

As to the Hooters, as I posted up thread, there were some people who ran away from the concert venue to escape the barrage of bullets coming from the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay who ended up taking shelter at the Hooters and MGM and, yes, some of them were injured, either shot or injured during the panic, hence the ambulances. 

And contrary to what the video implies, the Hooter isn’t that far away but far enough away for escape and for it to be used as a staging area.  Also keep in mind that a person can sustain a gunshot wound, even a rather serious one but sometimes the adrenaline and the flight or fight response takes over and they can run under their own power or with some help before the pain and blood loss really hits. So I don’t find at all odd or suspicious that there were victims who made their way to the Hooters and MGM that needed medical help, needed to be taken to the hospital, and thank goodness there were ambulances to take them.

Keep in mind that in the mass panic and mass confusion, the chaos of all those people running for their very lives along with the echoes and the likelihood that there were ricochets and bullet fragments bounding around, it would have been difficult for them to discern from where the bullets were coming, so I’m sure some people felt that the gun fire was coming at them from all directions, hence thinking that there must have been more than one shooter.

And “the feeling that” or “it sounded like” are phrases I see a lot in these eye witness and alleged eye witness accounts, even the second video posted in the OP’s link.

As I posted on another thread regarding the woman who the conspiracy theorists claimed died under mysterious circumstances (actually she had epilepsy and a brain tumor so contrary to the CT narrative, she wasn’t a perfectly healthy young woman who suddenly dropped dead for absolutely no reason...), when you read what she posted on her FB page before her family (no, not the government) took it down because of the harassment and trolling and even death threats they were receiving from the conspiracy kooks, she talks a lot about how she “felt” there must have been more than one shooter and how she had become obsessed over watching the TV coverage . Note she didn’t see any, she only felt there was more than one.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,285921.msg1483848.html#msg1483848


Also consider with all the people there at the concert that night and with the fact that nearly everyone now days carries a smart phone with a camera (and no, not every single person’s cell phone was confiscated and scrubbed, if any even were), why have we not seen any videos of any of the alleged other shooters? Also why are all of these eye witness accounts of there being other shooters so devoid of details. Why has no credible witness come forward with any description which I would think would be corroborated by more than one witness – he was tall, he was short, had long hair, had a pony tail, had an afro, he was wearing camo, he was wearing a cowboy hat, he looked Hispanic, he was blonde, Asian, she was wearing a burka, was carrying an “assault rifle”, a long gun, a semi auto hand gun…. but no, it’s all about what “I heard” and what “I felt”.

One final thought, just because someone makes a YouTube video, that doesn’t make it fact. It really doesn’t take that much to post a video saying “I was there” and this is what I saw, when the person was actually no were near the place or was in the general vicinity and wants to be more a part and or is only regurgitating video clips posted elsewhere. I can’t fathom why some people do that sort of thing except for being narcissists and wanting their 15 minutes of fame or just, what is the term for it, (oh yea, “catfishing”), when someone posts an on-line profile and tricks some poor gullible person into thinking they are in a very real and romantic relationship with the beautiful 24-year-old international super model when in reality she is a 42 year 350-pound grandmother living in a double wide trailer.  Just as bad or perhaps worse are the sites like Info Wars propagating it.
 
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2017, 12:48:50 am »
For the lack of anything more concrete. One shooter. Temporary insanity---aka---demonic possession. Investigative agencies fight for control all the time. Never let a crisis go to waste. Who is culpable? Paddock. Not the police. Or The FBI. Or MGM. Or Ellen.

There hasn't been a terrorist attack this big since 9/11 because all those 17 agencies are PROTECTING you. And those moslem people are nISISt in the whole world. If they did this you would hate them all. So they didn't do this. Hate each other is more important.

Lotta this society feed off of this kind of crap. Media, wars, political fights, lies, lies, lies. People feed off the constant horror. They now have the expectation of more horror. The bigger and worser the more they like it. Cause dissent, cause distrust.

We live in a highly modeled, molded, modulated, mediated world. Alexa---Tell me the truth about the Las Vegas shooting.

There are different kinds of censorship. Never let a crisis go to waste. The elephant never forgets. It can and will use what it learned here next week, next month, next year.

One shooter. Insane. Killed lots of people. End of story.

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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #87 on: October 24, 2017, 12:54:55 am »
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2017, 01:30:48 am »
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2017, 01:38:25 am »
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2017, 05:54:32 am »
Just a note.

When bullets are hitting the area around you and you don't know where they are coming from and then you move some significant distance to get away from them and then more bullets start striking around you it would be easy to assume there was more than one shooter. Initially one would assume the bullets were coming from ground level, especially with the high rise buildings being fairly far away. With that assumption and wide areas of destruction, one would assume more than one shooter.

People didn't know where the shots were coming from. The shooter could rain down bullets in greatly different locations in literally a second. That could easily make one think there were different shooters in the different locations.
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Re: Vegas bombshell: Video shows 17 ambulances pulling bodies out of Hooters
« Reply #91 on: October 24, 2017, 09:16:25 am »
Just a note.

When bullets are hitting the area around you and you don't know where they are coming from and then you move some significant distance to get away from them and then more bullets start striking around you it would be easy to assume there was more than one shooter. Initially one would assume the bullets were coming from ground level, especially with the high rise buildings being fairly far away. With that assumption and wide areas of destruction, one would assume more than one shooter.

People didn't know where the shots were coming from. The shooter could rain down bullets it greatly different locations in literally a second. That could easily make one think there were different shooters in the different locations.

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