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Offline AllThatJazzZ

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« Reply #100 on: October 12, 2017, 12:54:13 PM »
:silly:

It is funny, @Suppressed, but maybe we shouldn't laugh. This kind of "debate" tactic is used by the desperate when they're unable to formulate a cogent response. He can't see that the Clinton/Blue Dress/Lucianne episode has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. It's a pitiful attempt to marginalize Jonah so that he can imply that his POV invalid.

In observing the antics at TOS, it became very evident that the left has nothing on "the right" (very loose use of that term) when it comes to the inability to craft a well-thought-out reply, opting instead to throw around ad hominems. I see it as more pathetic than laughable.
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« Reply #101 on: October 12, 2017, 12:56:37 PM »
Because I think the biggest story in the Rat party self destructing is Harvey Weinstein. I also am the resident dirtbag at this forum. Most of the female posters can attest to that. I thought Harvey being my avatar appropriate.

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« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2017, 12:59:10 PM »
Again, not the issue.

Your feelings against Sasse and strong feelings for Trump are beside the point.

Trump is seeking to violate the Constitution, and pseudo-cons are cheering him on.

THAT............ is the point.

Exactly the point. And what's frightening is that this snowball seems to continue to roll downhill, collecting more speed and mass. A good portion of "the right" are not alarmed by this -- which, in itself, is alarming.
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« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2017, 01:00:35 PM »


The past several decades social conservatives have learned the hard way
that the US Constitution is not absolute law written in stone... but can be
twisted to morph over time into whatever media-manipulated popular opinion
and the USSC want it to be. 


 




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« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2017, 01:06:59 PM »
Fair question.
1st Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The first five words are the key.  The first amendment is a restriction on the power of Congress, not an instruction to the president.  The good Senator, being a member of Congress, is restricted by this amendment, but, the President has no constitutional power or restriction in this matter.  It would be good for the Senator to educate himself on his responsibility as well as that of the President.

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« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2017, 01:09:45 PM »
1st Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The first five words are the key.  The first amendment is a restriction on the power of Congress, not an instruction to the president.  The good Senator, being a member of Congress, is restricted by this amendment, but, the President has no constitutional power or restriction in this matter.  It would be good for the Senator to educate himself on his responsibility as well as that of the President.

Nobody in their right mind wants the President doing this.  However what is the alternative.   If we do not change course this country and our Constitution will cease to exist.
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« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2017, 01:09:45 PM »
Because our side has critical thinkers. Their side doesn't.

Really? You believe that? I used to. Not so much anymore. I've seen too much in the past couple of years.
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« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2017, 01:12:12 PM »
Yep.  The selfsame "Fairness Doctrine" that the dems have been pushing for years.

And.... let's not forget their "net neutrality" that they've been pushing, as well.

All code-talk for leftist censorship of anything they "deem" inappropriate (not leftie-slanted enough).
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« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2017, 01:12:37 PM »
There are no safe spaces in real life.   - LMAO

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« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2017, 01:14:57 PM »
Really? You believe that? I used to. Not so much anymore. I've seen too much in the past couple of years.

Our side (the right .... pardon pun... side) has critical thinkers.  It's just that the majority of non-critical thinkers (on both sides) either shout them down, demonize/marginalize them via fake news and false accusations, or ignore them altogether (See:  Ted Cruz accused of 'fill in the blank' during primaries).
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« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2017, 01:15:05 PM »
Exactly the point. And what's frightening is that this snowball seems to continue to roll downhill, collecting more speed and mass. A good portion of "the right" are not alarmed by this -- which, in itself, is alarming.

Indeed.  And the alarming stuff is going to get worse as Populist Liberal Trump keeps saying and doing things like this.  **nononono*
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« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2017, 01:17:51 PM »
Because I think the biggest story in the Rat party self destructing is Harvey Weinstein. I also am the resident dirtbag at this forum. Most of the female posters can attest to that. I thought Harvey being my avatar appropriate.

Totally appropriate and appropos of this subject.  How long did the press keep quiet about this loathsome predator.  And how many people covered for him because of greed and fear.

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« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2017, 01:18:49 PM »
George Stephanopolous speaks to millions every single day.   I cannot do this.   Why can he speak to millions and I can only speak to a few?

Why can Ed Sheeran or Bruno Mars speak to millions and I can only speak to a few?  I guess we need censorship of popular music, too.  After all, smaller acts just can't get heard.  It's just not fair!!

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« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2017, 01:20:05 PM »
The hollywood liberals already come up with dumb and boring TV shows, can you imagine how much worse the conservative shows would be?

I love the conservative shows.  That's why I watch re-runs of Blue Bloods and Star Trek.

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« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2017, 01:21:11 PM »
Ever wonder why certain people claiming to be "conservatives," sing from the same songbook as CNN, MSNBC, and the multitudes of extremely biased liberal propagandists?

Answer: Trump Obsession

FACT: Our airwaves are NOT entirely free and unregulated. Applicants must meet certain criteria, and follow rules. Historically enforcement has been lax.

What is sad, is that few besides Trump have sufficiently large huevos to call out "fake news," socialist propaganda, etc.

Most Republicans quietly sit on their comfortable, well paid, hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission

Thought you were gonna say... most Republicans sit on their comfortable, well padded, rears.  Which would be true... especially re: the current crop of congresscritters.   They will be known as THE all-time do-nothing Congress, if things don't change.  And with McCain, McConnell and a few others still there.... nothing will change.
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« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2017, 01:22:08 PM »
Many of us are former TOS members.  One of the finest moments in their history was the expose of Dan Rather, who blatantly lied about George W. Bush.

The lying by the press has continued to this day. All this hyperventilating over Trump's comment is a little over the top. People should be Hyperventilating about the lies fed to us daily.

Go over to Yahoo's main page.  Every day they have a wildly slanted story attacking Trump.

Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.


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« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2017, 01:24:24 PM »
I love the conservative shows.  That's why I watch re-runs of Blue Bloods and Star Trek.


I've refused to watch Star Trek since Leonard Nimoy and his daughter talked my mom into buying that Silhouette.
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« Reply #117 on: October 12, 2017, 01:24:44 PM »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

You said it well, t_s.

Why do you keep doing that??  It's not healthy.   ^-^
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« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2017, 01:28:15 PM »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

Well, on the Trump threads maybe.   You need to get out more. 
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« Reply #119 on: October 12, 2017, 01:28:49 PM »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

Amen.  If that pursuit was forbidden, a number of members here would have nothing to say.

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« Reply #120 on: October 12, 2017, 01:29:58 PM »
Well, on the Trump threads maybe.   You need to get out more.

The Trump threads?  Where are the non-Trump threads.  Maybe over in General but not in Politics.

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« Reply #121 on: October 12, 2017, 01:31:39 PM »
It is funny, @Suppressed, but maybe we shouldn't laugh. This kind of "debate" tactic is used by the desperate when they're unable to formulate a cogent response. He can't see that the Clinton/Blue Dress/Lucianne episode has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. It's a pitiful attempt to marginalize Jonah so that he can imply that his POV invalid.

In observing the antics at TOS, it became very evident that the left has nothing on "the right" (very loose use of that term) when it comes to the inability to craft a well-thought-out reply, opting instead to throw around ad hominems. I see it as more pathetic than laughable.

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You are, of course, correct.  But I'm human, and the claim was so ludicrous, that was the involuntary response. 

Seeing the Leftist drumbeat for the Fairness Doctrine here is sad.  And worse than sad -- it's scary.
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« Reply #122 on: October 12, 2017, 01:32:25 PM »

I've refused to watch Star Trek since Leonard Nimoy and his daughter talked my mom into buying that Silhouette.

Holding a 27 year old grudge. You really know how to turn a guy on.

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« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2017, 01:33:58 PM »
The first amendment is a restriction on the power of Congress, not an instruction to the president.
@etcb

Exactly.

Because the President (think of the word...he is there just to "preside") has absolutely no power Constitutionally to make laws.  That ALL comes from Congress.  So if Congress can't do it, the President can't.
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« Reply #124 on: October 12, 2017, 01:34:45 PM »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

Whether intentionally or not, his tweets provoke debate. Some attack them, some defend them, eventually some sort of consensus results. Or at least the issue at hand becomes better defined.

Clarity results and given the political class has thrived in the confusion their policies have created clarity is just whats needed.


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