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« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2017, 12:05:16 PM »
I'd settle for all news networks to be forced to run a disclaimer at the beginning of each broadcast. Something along the lines of 'the following news presentation has been modified to represent the political point of view of our corporate sponsor and may not contain all available information'.

What a great idea! You deserve a  :da man:

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« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2017, 12:06:20 PM »
If we let the media continue with their radical partisan agenda we won't have a Constitution to worry about.

The correct way to "not let" the media continue with their propaganda campaign is to inform and educate the America public to the spreading of that radical partisan propaganda and the agenda behind it, however.  I suspect that most already know (Trump was elected, after all), but there is still a plethora of individuals out there that are, quite obviously, clueless.  And about a third of hard-core leftists that are counting on the continuation of that leftist propaganda. 

Trump may be wrong by tweeting his FCC threats.... but you have to admit that more folks are finding out about these issues due TO his tweets (method to the madness?). 


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« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2017, 12:06:40 PM »
I love the smell of big government overreach in the morning........   **nononono*


I don't.  That's why I want the pro-government censorship of the big monopoly media-weapon stopped.   

I'm tired of hearing endless pro-government propaganda from the establishment controlled media.   





Constitution??  WHAT Constitution??


Exactly!   We need to take steps to ensure that the intent behind constitutionally protected "Freedom of Speech"  is met.   

Force them to allow our Freedom of Speech!   


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« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2017, 12:08:01 PM »
@kevindavis
Obama had a hotline to MSNBC who admitted they cleared stories with the White House before publishing them.

Did that bother you?

The press has had way too much power for years considering that they are 90% liberal and have admitted as much.

The press should be free but accountable.

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« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2017, 12:08:13 PM »
Again, not the issue.

Lady it is the whole damn issue. It is the only issue. I understand you backswim in Trump hate to make your day worthwhile. I really don't give a shit. What I do give a shit about is all the seal clapping for this do nothing loser Sasse.

You are aware that Sasse has it in his power to make Trump irrelevant by crafting legislation and getting it passed. You know that Ben is payed to do exactly that and not run his mouth about shit. That is why he is not very well liked in his state. He doesn't do shit.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/ben-sasse-iowa-gop-chairman/index.html

Feel free to hero worship a do nothing clown. All the power to you. Personally I judge a man by his accomplishments and even Donny has more under his belt than Professor Ben.



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« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2017, 12:08:32 PM »
Trump should respond by lifting the ban on political activity by 501C3 organizations, including churches.

Isn't it true that only black churches, can/do participate in political activities?

In practice, that is....
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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2017, 12:10:17 PM »
I'd settle for all news networks to be forced to run a disclaimer at the beginning of each broadcast. Something along the lines of 'the following news presentation has been modified to represent the political point of view of our corporate sponsor and may not contain all available information'.


I have said on countless occasions when people like George Stephanapolous or Chris Matthews are talking,  there should be a chyron underneath them saying something like:

"Democrat Propaganda agent from Massachusetts",  or "Democrat Propaganda agent from New York." 


So long as the public is informed just where their political opinions come from,   I think that would do a lot to force them into being more objective.   


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« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2017, 12:10:47 PM »

And once again I must ask,  "Why are Democrat leaders not plagued with these same sort of mouthy @$$holes who question their motives?"   


Why does this seem to only be a problem for Republicans?

Amen, brother.

I can only guess that democrats have 'something' on each other and are not afraid to use it.

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« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2017, 12:11:00 PM »
Freedom of speech

".....communist scumbag"

You really shouldn't try to adjust your meds on your own....
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« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2017, 12:11:19 PM »
Trump may be wrong by tweeting his FCC threats.... but you have to admit that more folks are finding out about these issues due TO his tweets (method to the madness?).

You might very well be right about that. I seriously doubt Trump would go
after NBC license but putting that on the table sure got people talking. Nice
insight.

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« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2017, 12:12:43 PM »
Isn't it true that only black churches, can/do participate in political activities?

In practice, that is....

Ummm, no.  In practice, it is not limited to only black churches.  Why would you think that?
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« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2017, 12:12:52 PM »
Lady it is the whole damn issue. It is the only issue. I understand you backswim in Trump hate to make your day worthwhile. I really don't give a shit. What I do give a shit about is all the seal clapping for this do nothing loser Sasse.

You are aware that Sasse has it in his power to make Trump irrelevant by crafting legislation and getting it passed. You know that Ben is payed to do exactly that and not run his mouth about shit. That is why he is not very well liked in his state. He doesn't do shit.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/ben-sasse-iowa-gop-chairman/index.html

Feel free to hero worship a do nothing clown. All the power to you. Personally I judge a man by his accomplishments and even Donny has more under his belt than Professor Ben.

What a hilarious post! 

Thanks for the laugh........... with all that talk about love and hate and swimming and worship nonsense.

However, your diversion from the subject doesn't make points for you.


It just makes you look silly.

But Donny makes LOTS of you look silly.   :tongue2:
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« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2017, 12:13:30 PM »

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« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2017, 12:13:44 PM »
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You are converting his argument of "Fake News"  into "those who criticize him."    Yes,  "fake news"  may be critical of him,   but the issue is that it is fake,  not that it is critical.

First.. we only have Trump's word that a story is fake.
Second.. it is up to the *injured* party to sue..we have all kinds of libel laws in this country.
Third...these so-called fake stories haven't seemed to hurt Trump politically...like I said yesterday with all the bad press and lies circulated by the MSM during the election most people didn't believe them and elected him POTUS.....give the American people some credit to ferret out the truth no matter what it is.

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« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2017, 12:14:04 PM »
Is this the same Ben Sasse who endorsed Corker's bill to effectively strip the Senate from approving Obama's Iran deal and instead caused a super majority to cancel it?

Ben has abrogated his sworn oath to uphold the Constitution by the Senate approval of treaties.

He has no credibility and should step down from office.
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« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2017, 12:14:24 PM »


Trump is seeking to violate the Constitution,



You claim such.  You *ASSERT*  such,   but I vehemently disagree.  The public owns the airwaves through which these people broadcast leftist propaganda.   

Licenses are issued to operators for the purpose of serving the public interest.   Spreading one sided propaganda is contrary to the public interest,  therefore the holders of these licenses are violating the requirements of the license,  and therefore the custodian of the public airwaves has the duty to pull their licenses until such time as they comply with operating in a manner that serves the public's interest. 



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« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2017, 12:16:48 PM »

It just makes you look silly.

But Donny makes LOTS of you look silly.   :tongue2:

Not really. What looks silly is all the pearl clutching over a dumb ass comment the President made that can NEVER HAPPEN. A) There is a Constitution. B) Licenses don't work that way.

So knowing that, we still have the usual suspects spinning off the rails over something that will never happen. Seems really productive. About as productive as lionizing Ben Sasse as someone special.
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« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2017, 12:19:19 PM »

You claim such.  You *ASSERT*  such,   but I vehemently disagree.  The public owns the airwaves through which these people broadcast leftist propaganda.   

Licenses are issued to operators for the purpose of serving the public interest.   Spreading one sided propaganda is contrary to the public interest,  therefore the holders of these licenses are violating the requirements of the license,  and therefore the custodian of the public airwaves has the duty to pull their licenses until such time as they comply with operating in a manner that serves the public's interest.

By that standard there won't be any televised or written *news* published....they are all slanted in one way or another.
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« Reply #68 on: October 12, 2017, 12:19:49 PM »
Not really. What looks silly is all the pearl clutching over a dumb ass comment the President made that can NEVER HAPPEN. A) There is a Constitution. B) Licenses don't work that way.

So knowing that, we still have the usual suspects spinning off the rails over something that will never happen. Seems really productive. About as productive as lionizing Ben Sasse as someone special.

You must think in hyperbole.

Did you actually read what I said?  Whenceforth comes all the gross exaggeration and nonsense??

So, your point is that our President is either a fool, or a liar.

How do you explain those here defending his right to defy the Constitution and revoke licenses of news sources that aren't fair to him?

They CLEARLY believe he means it and will do it, and they're all twitterpated.   :shrug:
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« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2017, 12:21:53 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2017, 12:22:35 PM »
It's still not Constitutional for the dictator-like President, and the government to silence them because they're not being fair.


Actually I think it is.   If the Networks were spewing anti-black or anti-Jewish propaganda,  you would see immediately that it is in the public interest for the Government to put a stop to it.   


The media spews anti-conservative propaganda every single day,   but because conservatives have become social pariahs in the media circles,   people think it should be permitted for the media to keep expressing these positions without conservatives having a right to an equal voice.   

The media is a vote manipulating machine.  That's what it has become.   By censoring or attritting one sides ability to reach the public,  it manipulates elections.   That is why they do it. 






The left has been doing that for decades, and we have been objecting to it.


And it is long past time that we started talking about putting a stop to it. 


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« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2017, 12:22:54 PM »
By that standard there won't be any televised or written *news* published....they are all slanted in one way or another.

And every television show, not just the news, will have to go through some filter to make sure it's "fair"
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« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2017, 12:25:01 PM »
Of course, your opinion of Sasse is not the point.  What he said is the point....... and he is absolutely correct.

Trump took an oath to defend the Constitution, and he is spitting in its face with this nonsense.

Ever wonder why liberals don't defend the 2nd amendment with the same fervor that they defend freedom of the press.


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« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2017, 12:25:10 PM »
By that standard there won't be any televised or written *news* published....they are all slanted in one way or another.

Written News is constitutionally protected. As I have pointed out three times in this
thread to which no one has responded

THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A BROADCAST LICENSE.

The airways belong to the people of these United States we
can legally give or take a license any time we want.
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« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2017, 12:26:29 PM »

So, your point is that our President is either a fool, or a liar.

Pretty well sums up every President since 1989.

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How do you explain those here defending his right to defy the Constitution and revoke licenses of news sources that aren't fair to him?

They CLEARLY believe he means it and will do it, and they're all twitterpated.   :shrug:

I don't really care that people think this is a good idea. People thought Cop Rock was a good idea. That's there problem to defend. Personally in the broad scope of things Obama saying that insurance premiums would go down is a far bigger lie than this High School bullshit Donny's slinging.
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