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Offline SZonian

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Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« on: October 10, 2017, 07:39:25 pm »
Mozilla has awarded $100,000 to RiseUp, a secure communication platform widely used by anti-fascist groups.

The open source group, creator of the popular Firefox browser, said that the award “will advance a free and healthy Internet.” In a blog post earlier this month, Mozilla described RiseUp as “a coordination platform used by activists across the political spectrum, to improve the security of their email service.”

RiseUp is a tech collective devoted to the creation of a free society based on principles such as democracy, equality, diversity, ecology and security, according to its website. “Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change,” its website says. “We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communication.”

The RiseUp email platform is used by a host of anti-fascist groups, both in the U.S. and overseas.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/10/10/mozilla-gave-100000-to-secure-email-platform-harnessed-by-anti-fascist-groups.html

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Time to find a new browser I guess.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 07:45:10 pm »
Harnessed by... meaning that conservative groups could harness the same platform?
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 07:49:58 pm »
@SZonian

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Time to find a new browser I guess.

Mozilla is as close an option as there is... Maybe Opera... But certainly Google's or Microsoft's offerings won't assuage your Conservative soul.

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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 07:50:15 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 10, 2017, 07:45:10 pm
Harnessed by... meaning that conservative groups could harness the same platform?
I would imagine so...
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 07:52:18 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on October 10, 2017, 07:49:58 pm
@SZonian

Mozilla is as close an option as there is... Maybe Opera... But certainly Google's or Microsoft's offerings won't assuage your Conservative soul.

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Google is used solely for my trash email account...don't use MS anything except Bing...but you're probably right, I may be stuck with Mozilla.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 08:08:39 pm »
Mozilla is free and I don't give them a red cent. Who cares?
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 03:59:13 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 10, 2017, 07:45:10 pm
Harnessed by... meaning that conservative groups could harness the same platform?


No. 

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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2017, 05:34:35 pm »
I might be willing to try a different browser, but I'm not aware of any viable free alternative to Thunderbird?
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2017, 05:39:36 pm »
Quote from: Snarknado on October 16, 2017, 05:34:35 pm
I might be willing to try a different browser, but I'm not aware of any viable free alternative to Thunderbird?

Well, there's Outlook  :smokin:
And Eudora and Pegasus are still around, last I looked... but I think Eudora is Mozilla based now.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2017, 01:42:51 pm »
Quote from: Snarknado on October 16, 2017, 05:34:35 pm
I might be willing to try a different browser, but I'm not aware of any viable free alternative to Thunderbird?

Browser: https://www.palemoon.org/
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2017, 04:07:55 pm »
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2017, 04:15:32 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 10, 2017, 08:08:39 pm
Mozilla is free and I don't give them a red cent. Who cares?

Firefox is like Facebook- you aren't the customer, you are the product they are selling. They are selling your metrics and activity to advertisers. Often people think if they don't give a company like this their money, they aren't supporting them, but they usually don't know what side of the equation they are on.

In other words, you are giving them a lot of time value (aka $$$$$) by using their product. Far more than if you paid for any subscription service.

So yes, you are funding them.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 04:16:36 pm »
Quote from: Doug Loss on October 17, 2017, 01:42:51 pm
Browser: https://www.palemoon.org/
              https://vivaldi.com/
              https://brave.com/
              https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
              http://www.midori-browser.org/
              http://www.lunascape.tv/
              http://www.ucweb.com/
              https://www.epicbrowser.com/

Email: http://www.emclient.com/
         https://www.nylas.com/nylas-mail/
         https://www.getmailbird.com/
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Most of those browsers are based on the Mozilla platform. They only give the surface 'marketing spin' of being different.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 04:22:50 pm »
Quote from: Snarknado on October 16, 2017, 05:34:35 pm
I might be willing to try a different browser, but I'm not aware of any viable free alternative to Thunderbird?

Opera is not bad.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2017, 04:24:00 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on October 17, 2017, 04:15:32 pm
Firefox is like Facebook- you aren't the customer, you are the product they are selling. They are selling your metrics and activity to advertisers. Often people think if they don't give a company like this their money, they aren't supporting them, but they usually don't know what side of the equation they are on.

In other words, you are giving them a lot of time value (aka $$$$$) by using their product. Far more than if you paid for any subscription service.

So yes, you are funding them.


Hmmmm
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2017, 04:35:08 pm »
More info regarding my previous post.

97% of Mozilla's revenue is from search engine royalties. In other words, they are literally selling you to Google who pays them when you search or for other browsing data (and Bing and yahoo and so on). Google is then selling your activity to advertisers.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/041315/how-mozilla-firefox-and-google-chrome-make-money.asp

You are not their customer. You are the product they are passing around.
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Re: Mozilla gave $100,000 to secure email platform harnessed by anti-fascist groups
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2017, 04:55:49 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on October 17, 2017, 04:16:36 pm
Most of those browsers are based on the Mozilla platform. They only give the surface 'marketing spin' of being different.


Brave is from the Mozilla-ousted Eich: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

I use Brave on my smartphone, switching to Chrome when I need, I think, HTML5. Brave is based on Chromium.


Vivaldi is also based in Chromium and the latest version gets some good reviews. Neat features and customizable, they say.


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