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ARS Technica by Terry Virts - Sep 28, 2017

Former ISS Commander Terry Virts argues NASA does not need another space station.

Editor’s note: NASA’s proposed Deep Space Gateway has been in the news recently due to a joint statement of support for the project from US and Russian officials. However, as former space shuttle pilot and International Space Station commander Terry Virts writes in an op-ed below, there is little agreement in US space policy circles about the need for the gateway.

Consider the following proposal for a human spaceflight program. First, a multinational consortium comes together to build a space station, with each nation responsible for specific pieces of the station or capabilities, such as module or robotic arm. Second, the station relies on existing rockets and vehicles to launch cargo and crew, effectively providing these programs a raison d’etre for many years to come. Third, the consortium develops an “assembly sequence” of missions to put the station’s modules together in orbit, one by one. Then, once the space station is built, astronauts use it to perform experiments and prepare for eventual missions deeper into the Solar System.

Does this program sound familiar? You may think this is the International Space Station—but it is not. Rather, this is NASA’s recent proposal for something called “Deep Space Gateway.” But there are several key differences between this new program and the ISS. Most notably, the gateway would be built in orbit around the Moon. Also, it will not use the Space Shuttle for assembly but instead rely on NASA’s Space Launch System rocket and Orion spacecraft, vehicles that should be operational by the mid-2020s.

The people at NASA who have developed the gateway concept are some of the brightest people that I know, and they have tried as best they can to shepherd our human spaceflight program through the past decade, even as it lacked a concrete goal or mission. Nevertheless, America deserves a thoughtful and critical examination of this plan. For if we choose to pursue it, America and its international partners will be committing to this pathway for the next few decades of human spaceflight.

What’s the goal?

More: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/op-ed-the-deep-space-gateway-would-shackle-human-exploration-not-enable-it/

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Makes some very good points.
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Why not just put it at a LaGrange point? It'd be closer to the Earth that way.
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More info (worth reading): https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/for-the-first-time-nasa-has-begun-detailing-its-deep-space-exploration-plans/

Not a lot of flights planned

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Phase 1 and 2: Cislunar

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One Crewed Orion/SLS exploration mission per-year beginning in 2023
One SLS cargo mission per year starting in 2027

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Why not just put it at a LaGrange point? It'd be closer to the Earth that way.

NASA has that in consideration, too.
https://www.space.com/14188-nasa-deep-space-manned-mission-concepts.html
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I guess I don't understand the need for putting it in orbit around the Moon.  What is the upside to that?   Better access TO the Moon....for what purpose?   :shrug:
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I guess I don't understand the need for putting it in orbit around the Moon.  What is the upside to that?   Better access TO the Moon....for what purpose?   :shrug:

For Mars exploration, it would make more sense to me, to put it in an Earth-Mars Cycler Trajectory

http://ccar.colorado.edu/asen5050/projects/projects_2008/shupe_report/shupe_report.html

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