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Offline corbe

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Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« on: September 27, 2017, 04:37:35 am »
Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off

By Niall Stanage - 09/26/17 11:39 PM EDT

President Trump and the GOP establishment took a hit on Tuesday, as former judge Roy Moore defeated incumbent Sen. Luther Strange (R-Ala.) to become the GOP’s nominee for December’s general election in the Yellowhammer State. 

Moore won a comfortable victory, despite Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) backing Strange.

What were the main takeaways?

Trump backed the wrong man

Trump’s support for Strange always seemed incongruous.

Strange was seen as a creature of the establishment, both because he had the support of McConnell and because he had been appointed to the seat in the first place by scandal-plagued former Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley.

Strange, who does not have a surfeit of charisma, took the seat that was vacated when former Sen. Jeff Sessions became Trump’s attorney general.

Trump’s decision to back Strange in advance of the first stage of the GOP primary in early August was a controversial one, even among his allies.

Stephen Bannon, who was still Trump’s chief strategist at the time, was opposed to the move. Maverick GOP strategist and longtime Trump friend Roger Stone told The Hill on Monday that he believed Trump had been “conned” by liberal-leaning members of his own administration into backing Strange.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/352614-five-takeaways-from-the-alabama-run-off
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 05:08:46 am »
Trump didn't take a hit this was an election about not backing McConnell and the establishment which Trump is not a part of. Trump just made a mistake or backed Strange due to pressure from McConnell we only disagreed with Trump not one iota of support was lost for him due to this election.
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 11:05:51 pm »
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 01:28:03 am »
1. Trump backed the wrong man
2. A serious defeat for McConnell
3. Bragging rights for Bannon and Breitbart
4. Could more GOP senators eye the exit?
5. Moore could give GOP heartburn

Regarding #4, I certainly hope so.
Regarding #5, I certainly hope that he does.
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 01:32:15 am »
Quote from: raml on September 27, 2017, 05:08:46 am
[T]his was an election about not backing McConnell and the establishment which Trump is not a part of.

 :silly:

Yes he is. How many Goldman-Sachs appointees to his administration before y'all see the light?
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 11:02:45 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on September 28, 2017, 01:32:15 am
:silly:

Yes he is. How many Goldman-Sachs appointees to his administration before y'all see the light?


I'm no longer able to view it in Them v Us/Establishment Overlords v Us, BECAUSE, we've been dragged so far down that road already that almost everyone with 10 cents to spend has already bought their way in.

Whatever laws/extra legal protections/exclusions in bills (Except in cases of) you can Buy them, doesn't seem to matter who you are.

The most positive shift away from that fascistic anarchy I've seen yet is the recent 2 for 1 requirement on new Federal Regulations.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316839-trump-to-sign-order-reducing-regulations

We're gonna have to apply that model to everything in Govt if we ever want our lives and freedom back.
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 12:18:45 am »
Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on September 28, 2017, 11:02:45 pm
We're gonna have to apply that model to everything in Govt if we ever want our lives and freedom back.

I will assure you I will be in a 'Throw the bastards out' mood in 2018... Hell I'm there right now.

All I know is that if the Freedom Caucus goes for it in the House, and Cruz, Lee, Paul, and Moore go for it in the Senate, I will probably like whatever it is. Otherwise, I flat don't like it, right out of the gate.
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 12:30:44 am »
Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on September 27, 2017, 11:05:51 pm
Rush: Moore's Victory Shows Trumpism Is Bigger Than Trump

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/27/rush-moores-victory-shows-trumpism-is-bigger-than-trump/

That sounds a lot like global warming causes it to get cooler... In other words, an oxymoron...

On the other hand, populism has no leader. It is the nature of populism, it blows with the wind. It isn't based on principles so it isn't predictable. One day the masses can love you and the next they can hate you.
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 12:34:20 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on September 29, 2017, 12:18:45 am
I will assure you I will be in a 'Throw the bastards out' mood in 2018... Hell I'm there right now.

All I know is that if the Freedom Caucus goes for it in the House, and Cruz, Lee, Paul, and Moore go for it in the Senate, I will probably like whatever it is. Otherwise, I flat don't like it, right out of the gate.

I wish you would just accept the 70%!   :whistle:
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 12:37:48 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on September 28, 2017, 01:32:15 am
:silly:

Yes he is. How many Goldman-Sachs appointees to his administration before y'all see the light?

4 more....possibly 5.
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Re: Five takeaways from the Alabama run-off
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 01:35:24 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on September 29, 2017, 12:34:20 am
I wish you would just accept the 70%!   :whistle:

I think you've misplaced a decimal...
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