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So far the President's done pretty damn well against some formidable opposition on both sides of the swamp.

To highlight a few of the promises kept:  He ended dozens of Obama's EO's, including growth stifling regulations including those from the EPA, (both employment and the stock market are up as is consumer confidence)

He's pulled us out of TPP and the Paris Climate Accord, he's renegotiating NAFTA.  He fought like hell for and met repeatedly with the Republican caucus to repeal and replace Obamacare .... but the Republican Senatorial caucus wasn't having  it. (But fearing for their jobs, the Senate is now taking another crack at this)

The Senate just passed on a bipartisan vote a $700 billion increase in military spending. President Trump signed into law a bill providing over $2 billion to open new Veterans Affairs department medical facilities and fund care for veterans seeking medical care outside the government system on Saturday--giving them immediate access to health care.

He's nominated dozens of federal judges .... but our esteemed Republican Senate has neither time nor interest in helping to fundamentally change the makeup of the federal bench.  (Imagine what the President could accomplish with a functioning Senate)

Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada.  The President's EO on extreme vetting remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court.  MS-13 is being rounded up and deported.  He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.

Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review. 

The President has moved to tax reform requiring (thanks to McConnell) 60 votes in the Senate ... so he's looking to pick off Democrat Senators to help pass it.   

The President stood for America first at the most unlikely of places on this planet:  the United Nations.

He's really doing a very good job.


??? When did Congress approve $1.6 billion for a NEW wall??  It was my understanding that $$ was appropriated to repair the existing wall but no $$ was in the budget or any future budget for any additional wall/barrier.

As for the vetting and stopping of refugees, it was my understanding that it was for a very limited time period of 3 months.

If you have information to the contrary, please correct me.

RIV you list all kinds of things that you claim that Pres. Trump has done -- but where are the links??
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So you ain't got nothing. Just like lying Ted.

Now.@jpsb, you aren't drunk today like you were the other day, so you don't have an excuse.

I mean, I guess you aren't...

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Ann Coulter sells book by making outrageous statements to keep her in the news.  I dismissed her ranting years ago.

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I'm pretty sure the Trump fans were hanging on her every word before the election, but now she seems to have lost her credibility with them. 

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Please send me a link to where Trump says he is not going to build The Wall. TIA (thanks in advance)

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Trump:  The wall is fence renovation

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/14/donald-trump-the-wall-is-actually-just-renovation-of-old-fences/




"...Trump even acknowledges that the wall is “the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.

Trump spent much of his call with Peqa Nieto just trying to convince him to stop talking about how Mexico would not pay for the wall. Trump even suggested he would fudge it in the end so that both sides could claim they didn’t give in.

“We should both say, ‘We will work it out.’ It will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said. “As opposed to you saying, ‘We will not pay,’ and me saying, ‘We will not pay.’ ”

Peqa Nieto said Trump’s promise had put a “very big mark on our back” and “is an issue related to the dignity of Mexico and goes to the national pride of my country.” Trump’s response to all of that was basically: Okay, well let’s just stop talking about it publicly.

“But you cannot say that to the press,” Trump said. “The press is going to go with that, and I cannot live with that.” 
 

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/03/analysis-trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-/




White House legislative directoer Marc Short:

“I think that what the definition of a wall is, is something that we all need to have a serious conversation,” Short said over the weekend on CNN’s “The Situation Room.” The border will be secured by a “myriad of different structures,” Short said.


http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/09/18/trump-aide-calls-for-a-conversation-about-the-definition-of-a-wall-what/



Lol, we're at the Clintonian point of "it depends on what the meaning of wall is."  Jpsb,  Trump and his fellow shysters are falling over themselves trying to backpedal.  Although I expect you'll come up with reasons to dismiss everything I've provided you here.

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More smoke and mirrors to attain praise and adulation for the Great and Powerful Orange.

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More smoke and mirrors to attain praise and adulation for the Great and Powerful Orange.

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It's interesting.

So many people here hated Trump during the primaries ... me, among them.

One thing I hated about him was that I did not dream he could beat Hillary but I'm so glad he did.

Yes, there is a difference.

So, all these people who expected NOTHING from Trump are now outraged because they are saying they got nothing.

Interesting.

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It's interesting.

So many people here hated Trump during the primaries ... me, among them.

One thing I hated about him was that I did not dream he could beat Hillary but I'm so glad he did.

Yes, there is a difference.

So, all these people who expected NOTHING from Trump are now outraged because they are saying they got nothing.

Interesting.

@Emjay

IMO, it's just a last gasp at attempting to remain relevant.

In their bizarro world, Ted Cruz should have been the Nominee....if not for the dirty, no-good rotten NYC liberal hack.

So, it's in their nature to not accept the reality, instead hanging around just for the chance to yell, "I told you so!"

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I dont care about an attractive dignified republican.  I just want a CONSERVATIVE one.  Unfortunately the primary voters went for the shiny object and this is where we are.
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.

If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.

So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.

And he's done far more than that.  I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it.  If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.

If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.

So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.

And he's done far more than that.  I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it.  If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.

Republicans 'holding the place' is what so many of us have been griping about for so long.  They hold the place and then eventually another liberal comes along and pushes us more to the left.  Look where we are from them holding the place instead of undoing.

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Republicans 'holding the place' is what so many of us have been griping about for so long.  They hold the place and then eventually another liberal comes along and pushes us more to the left.  Look where we are from them holding the place instead of undoing.

Exactly.  When did we morph into a nation that settles for half-measures and merely keeping the status quo?  Talk about lowered expectations....
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.

If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.

So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.

And he's done far more than that.  I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it.  If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.

Amen, to everything, @Emjay
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.

If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.

So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.

And he's done far more than that.  I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it.  If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.

I'm not so sure we've climbed out of anything ... yet.  D.C. is still a cesspool that needs to be emptied.
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I'm not so sure we've climbed out of anything ... yet.  D.C. is still a cesspool that needs to be emptied.

I didn't say we had (climbed out of anything).

But, yeah, DC is a cesspool but Trump didn't fill it.
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I didn't say we had (climbed out of anything).

But, yeah, DC is a cesspool but Trump didn't fill it.

Not saying that Trump filled it, but he sure as heck isn't emptying it either.  Unless he gets rid of some of the corrupt dead weight, not a whole lot is going to change.
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The way Trump’s slashing federal regulations alone makes me one happy cat. The rest is icing.

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[quote author=XenaLee link=topic=282018.msg1458470#msg1458470 date=1506022653

Psst - Hint:  Ted Cruz ain't the president.   What the hell relevance is he to this discussion?
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@corbe posted this "A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong.  DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. "

He asked for a correction so I corrected him using Cruzs' own words. See reply 64 for the video

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Now.@jpsb, you aren't drunk today like you were the other day, so you don't have an excuse.

I mean, I guess you aren't...

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I never said I was drunk I said I had a hangover, it is not nice to lie about someone. I think there is something about that in the big ten.

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Trump:  The wall is fence renovation

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/14/donald-trump-the-wall-is-actually-just-renovation-of-old-fences/




"...Trump even acknowledges that the wall is “the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.

Trump spent much of his call with Peqa Nieto just trying to convince him to stop talking about how Mexico would not pay for the wall. Trump even suggested he would fudge it in the end so that both sides could claim they didn’t give in.

“We should both say, ‘We will work it out.’ It will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said. “As opposed to you saying, ‘We will not pay,’ and me saying, ‘We will not pay.’ ”

Peqa Nieto said Trump’s promise had put a “very big mark on our back” and “is an issue related to the dignity of Mexico and goes to the national pride of my country.” Trump’s response to all of that was basically: Okay, well let’s just stop talking about it publicly.

“But you cannot say that to the press,” Trump said. “The press is going to go with that, and I cannot live with that.” 
 

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/03/analysis-trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-/




White House legislative directoer Marc Short:

“I think that what the definition of a wall is, is something that we all need to have a serious conversation,” Short said over the weekend on CNN’s “The Situation Room.” The border will be secured by a “myriad of different structures,” Short said.


http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/09/18/trump-aide-calls-for-a-conversation-about-the-definition-of-a-wall-what/



Lol, we're at the Clintonian point of "it depends on what the meaning of wall is."  Jpsb,  Trump and his fellow shysters are falling over themselves trying to backpedal.  Although I expect you'll come up with reasons to dismiss everything I've provided you here.

Nowhere do you accually quote Trump himself

I do

Trump: There will be a wall, no amnesty

All this no wall stuff is fake news


House approves spending bill with $1.6 billion for the border wall

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Exactly.  When did we morph into a nation that settles for half-measures and merely keeping the status quo?  Talk about lowered expectations....

Yall sound like a bunch of teenage girls, instant gratification huh? We are and have been in a war with the commies since 1912 and the election of Woodrow Wilson. (thanks a lot teddy). President Hillary would have caused irreversible damage. Yall should be happy that did not happen (no thanks to the NTers). Trump IS rolling back Big Gov and that is not an easy thing to do.

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A little to late for that, Ann.  Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.

Whatever you think of Trump, his Veep pick was first rate - a conservative by almost anyone's definition and a solid citizen to boot. 

It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

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Ahhh, the fetid smell of Trump-worship in the morning.  Such touching faith in The Wall.

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Mine are the Redskins, and whoever is playing the Cowboys.

fyi, I know quite a few Texas Titans fans.  There are a lot of Titan hats and lanyards on display here at site.  I still miss Warren Moon and the Fab Four (Jeffires, Givens, Duncan, and Slaughter).

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Mine is the Carolina Panthers, and trust me, it's an exercise in patience that I'm coming to the end of.  I never saw a team so good at winning up until the 4th quarter and then giving it away.  It's their hallmark.  Omg, I still remember 2016...they made it to the Super Bowl and Cam Newton completely choked.