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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 10:29:57 pm »
That guy is spending a he'll of a lot on tests.  Not to mention the test cycles are amazingly short.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 10:36:54 pm »
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 10:38:10 pm »
Given that they've claimed to have tested a compact thermonuclear device and threatened to 'sink' Japan, any missile fired toward them should be engaged and shot down.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2017, 10:43:27 pm »
Japan actually told their residents to take shelter.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/908454136282263553

That is the responsible thing to do since those missiles can go anywhere, they are so nonfunctional.

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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2017, 10:51:28 pm »
This twitter site seems to be following the situation pretty well:
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Strategic Sentinel ‏Verified account @StratSentinel 10m10

New information from #ROK military says #DPRK missile likely reached an altitude of 770 km, flew 3,700 km.
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Estimated splashdown site:

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 Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel 18m18 minutes ago

The #DPRK missile was launched at 6:59am, flew over #Hokkaido at 7:06am, and splashed down at 7:16am for a 17 minute flight time.
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 Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel 20m20 minutes ago

#ROK JCS confirm that #DPRK missile came from the same airfield as the last #Japan overflight
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Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel 22m22 minutes ago

#Japanese Authorities say that #DPRK missile fell into the Pacific Ocean about 2,000km to the east off Hokkaido at 7:16am
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Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel 25m25 minutes ago

President Moon to preside over NSC meeting on #DPRK missile launch
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Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel 28m28 minutes ago

Authorities urge citizens not to touch unidentified objects.
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Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel 28m28 minutes ago

#DPRK missile type is yet unknown. #Japanese authorities say they are worried about missile debris impacting #Japanese land
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2017, 10:52:00 pm »
Given that they've claimed to have tested a compact thermonuclear device and threatened to 'sink' Japan, any missile fired toward them should be engaged and shot down.

There should be no question. There's no way to tell between another test and the real thing.

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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 11:00:12 pm »
Given that they've claimed to have tested a compact thermonuclear device and threatened to 'sink' Japan, any missile fired toward them should be engaged and shot down.

My guess is were watching them prep the missiles and know whether they have a warhead or not.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2017, 11:01:24 pm »
There should be no question. There's no way to tell between another test and the real thing.

Depends, when I was there we could watch the crews run out to the middle sites.  We probably know a lot.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2017, 11:04:15 pm »
There should be no question. There's no way to tell between another test and the real thing.

There is, since there's a facility in northern Hokkaido where the MDA radar is located.  They have an idea where the missile will land, within a few minutes, based on trajectory and type.  However, they've experienced multiple failures and in flight breakups.  It's too much of a risk the missile will fail and not reach the intended target area.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2017, 11:07:16 pm »
There is, since there's a facility in northern Hokkaido where the MDA radar is located.  They have an idea where the missile will land, within a few minutes, based on trajectory and type.  However, they've experienced multiple failures and in flight breakups.  It's too much of a risk the missile will fail and not reach the intended target area.

Would a missile bound for Japan from NK have time to actually get to a suborbital altitude?

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2017, 11:17:56 pm »
Yesterday, NK said:

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North Korea threatens to 'sink' Japan and reduce US to 'ashes and darkness' with nuclear bomb
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When you talk like this, I don't know what they expect to happen.

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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2017, 11:19:31 pm »
Would a missile bound for Japan from NK have time to actually get to a suborbital altitude?

Depends but yes the last several did.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2017, 11:23:49 pm »
Would a missile bound for Japan from NK have time to actually get to a suborbital altitude?

Japan has the Patriot PAC-3, which is capable of intercepting medium and long range missiles.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2017, 11:30:27 pm »
Japan has the Patriot PAC-3, which is capable of intercepting medium and long range missiles.

And what does "capable" mean; 1 out of 3 chances? One article was posted here saying the chances of shooting down a missile weren't that great. I certainly don't know.

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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2017, 11:33:46 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2017, 11:44:48 pm »
And what does "capable" mean; 1 out of 3 chances? One article was posted here saying the chances of shooting down a missile weren't that great. I certainly don't know.

The PAC-3 isn't the same Patriots used in Gulf War I to engage SCUDs.  It's got nearly 200 pulse motors used to maneuver the missile into direct collision with the incoming warhead.  It's a hit-to-kill vehicle specifically dedicated to missile intercept.  It also has an active seeking warhead. Japan also has missile destroyers with Aegis systems and SM-3 ABMs.  We have our ships in the area with SM-3 and SM-6.  If we want to engage the missile, it's coming down.

My guess is we haven't done it yet, because we do not want to give China and Russia free technical data on our capabilities. You know they are watching the region and events, as well. In the meantime, we are requiring a lot of information on the NK missiles with our radar tracking and satellite surveillance.
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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2017, 11:48:50 pm »
Another day, another North Korean missile launch.
Another day, and no response to it, other than "goin' through the motions".

Probably gonna be another launch next week, and another next month, etc.

The NORKs are perfecting their technology.
Sooner or later, they're gonna be ready to "play for real".

When will -we- be ready to do the same?

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Re: North Korea Launches Missile from Near Pyongyang Towards Japan- Breaking
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2017, 11:52:49 pm »
I said from the start and anyone could make the same observation, it's the Japanese who have really been at the forefront the whole time, there are age-old animosities between the two or at least, against Japan, 2 missiles have now, flown over Japan. They might have some say in this before it's over...

And South Korea has just requested to have nuclear weapons, that story broke in only about the past 6 hours.

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2017, 12:00:23 am »
And what does "capable" mean; 1 out of 3 chances? One article was posted here saying the chances of shooting down a missile weren't that great. I certainly don't know.

Capable means 50 to 60%
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2017, 12:01:55 am »
I said from the start and anyone could make the same observation, it's the Japanese who have really been at the forefront the whole time, there are age-old animosities between the two or at least, against Japan, 2 missiles have now, flown over Japan. They might have some say in this before it's over...

And South Korea has just requested to have nuclear weapons, that story broke in only about the past 6 hours.

If wager SK already has them.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2017, 12:02:32 am »
I said from the start and anyone could make the same observation, it's the Japanese who have really been at the forefront the whole time, there are age-old animosities between the two or at least, against Japan, 2 missiles have now, flown over Japan. They might have some say in this before it's over...

And South Korea has just requested to have nuclear weapons, that story broke in only about the past 6 hours.

More accurately, some of their parliament members requested US redeployment of tactical nukes in SK.  We no longer have IRBMs, after the INF Treaty signed in the 80s.  Our Pershing IIs were completely deactivated in 1991.  We still have Tomahawks and Tridents cruising in the Pacific, so they're covered.
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2017, 02:10:54 am »
South Korea 'fires ballistic missile' in response to North Korea's strike towards Japan


South Korea has reportedly fired a ballistic missile towards North Korea in response to the hermit state's earlier strike.

North Korea fired a missile in an eastern direction, over the island of Hokkaido, from its capital Pyongyang.


South Korea has responded by firing a ballistic missile into waters off its eastern coast, it has been reported.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/south-korea-fires-ballistic-missile-11174721
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2017, 03:23:35 am »
Another day, another North Korean missile launch.
Another day, and no response to it, other than "goin' through the motions".

Probably gonna be another launch next week, and another next month, etc.

The NORKs are perfecting their technology.
Sooner or later, they're gonna be ready to "play for real".

When will -we- be ready to do the same?

Its OK. Trump will threaten more fire and fury and that will really put them in their place!  He might even send them a strongly worded letter!

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