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Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
New York Post, Sep 10, 2017

With Florida taking a horrific pounding from Irma so soon after Harvey’s flooding farther west, it’s now plain that President Trump was right to take that deal with Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi last week.

By agreeing to kick the can on the debt-limit and spending battles three months down the road, Trump avoided having Washington locked in another inside-baseball battle when so many Americans are suffering.

Maybe the president could’ve been nicer to GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while taking the Dem offer. But the grim truth is that the Republicans’ elaborate strategizing has failed utterly so far this year.

It’s September, and ObamaCare remains unrepealed, unreplaced and unfixed. Any kind of tax reform or tax cut is now dicey, and even funding the government through the end of the next fiscal year is almost certainly going to require another one of those ginormous, swamp-feeding omnibus bills.

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Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.


More: http://nypost.com/2017/09/10/irmas-wrath-confirms-trumps-wisdom-in-cutting-that-deal-with-democrats/

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Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

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Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

Progressives doing what progressives do.

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Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

And... even while (still) managing to bash conservatives.   
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Sorry to interrupt the current and coming knee jerks here ... but this is important:

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Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.




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Sorry to interrupt the current and coming knee jerks here ... but this is important:

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Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.


Seeing clearly...or, is Trump just covering up secret deals with the democrats for their help in passing Russian-crafted legislation in congress? That's my bet.

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So we're supposed to be OK with playing politics with disaster relief?

Trump supports it so it must be good.
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So we're supposed to be OK with playing politics with disaster relief?

Trump supports it so it must be good.

The irony here is that President Trump, played politics with said relief, so that victims in Red States won't be 'victims' in political games.

Plus, he showing us all how a businessman/leader sets priorities when it comes to natural disasters and the relief to follow.

BTW....find it fascinating that this never even registers to the average Never Trumper.   ...so blinded by the hate, they are.
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Seeing clearly...or, is Trump just covering up secret deals with the democrats for their help in passing Russian-crafted legislation in congress? That's my bet.

The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?

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So we're supposed to be OK with playing politics with disaster relief?

Trump supports it so it must be good.

LOL. Get it right, Mitch and Ryan were the ones playing politics with disaster relief, not Trump he did what he had to to get those funds.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2017, 03:07:05 pm »
And... even while (still) managing to bash conservatives.

1. The so called "conservatives" the measure was aimed at were Ryan and McConnell, most loved by do-nothing fans.

2. Exit polls reveal that 15% of so called conservatives, voted for Hillary.

3. McCain, Romney, Kasich, JebBush and others will assure you they are conservatives.

"Conservative" is a poorly defined word these days. Like it or not.

These days, Trump will state in 144 characters or less, he needed to move fast as the winds and waters were moving fast.

No time for petty politicians to play games, holding public safety hostage.
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2017, 03:09:36 pm »
Trump's sycophants here will do whatever it takes to support their orange God. When you attack Trump, they feel as if you have attacked them personally.

It's the strangest thing ever.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2017, 03:16:10 pm »
1. The so called "conservatives" the measure was aimed at were Ryan and McConnell, most loved by do-nothing fans.

2. Exit polls reveal that 15% of so called conservatives, voted for Hillary.

3. McCain, Romney, Kasich, JebBush and others will assure you they are conservatives.

"Conservative" is a poorly defined word these days. Like it or not.

These days, Trump will state in 144 characters or less, he needed to move fast as the winds and waters were moving fast.

No time for petty politicians to play games, holding public safety hostage.

Ehh..... I'm speaking of the conservatives that more likely voted for Cruz.... who wouldn't be caught dead voting for Hillary.  In other words, I'm talking about real conservatives, not the ones that pretend not to be leftists ......ie the usual suspect RINOs.

Poorly defined is just an excuse some here use as they bash those of us that DO actually adhere to conservative values, ideology and policies/issues.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2017, 03:27:09 pm »
Seeing clearly...or, is Trump just covering up secret deals with the democrats for their help in passing Russian-crafted legislation in congress? That's my bet.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2017, 03:35:25 pm »
Trump's sycophants here will do whatever it takes to support their orange God. When you attack Trump, they feel as if you have attacked them personally.

It's the strangest thing ever.

Pardon me, but weren't you one that reluctantly voted for Trump? If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Don't mean to insult you by thinking you did.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2017, 03:46:14 pm »
Trump's sycophants here will do whatever it takes to support their orange God. When you attack Trump, they feel as if you have attacked them personally.

It's the strangest thing ever.

They do love their daddy.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2017, 03:55:46 pm »
Pardon me, but weren't you one that reluctantly voted for Trump? If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Don't mean to insult you by thinking you did.

Sure, but I don't mindlessly defend every little thing he does, unlike some people here.

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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2017, 04:19:29 pm »
Sure, but I don't mindlessly defend every little thing he does, unlike some people here.

Thank you!!!

Fawning praise for every action is tedious.

I know Trumpsters will disagree, but Trump has been praised for a number of his actions, most notably Justice Gorsuch.

Tapping the breaks on knee jerk reactions to criticism of Trump would go a long ways toward d broadening the base, which Trump will need in 2020.
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 04:19:36 pm »
The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?

Where is the CLEAN BILL of JUST recovery funds that we taxpayers will have to front in ever-increasing amounts?

Where is it?

Where is JUST the bill for disaster relief and not the pork-laden horseshit behemoth of a spending increase Trumpian imbeciles are championing as Solomon-esque wisdom their Dear Leader has done?
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 04:22:38 pm »
Ehh..... I'm speaking of the conservatives that more likely voted for Cruz.... who wouldn't be caught dead voting for Hillary.  In other words, I'm talking about real conservatives, not the ones that pretend not to be leftists ......ie the usual suspect RINOs.

Poorly defined is just an excuse some here use as they bash those of us that DO actually adhere to conservative values, ideology and policies/issues.

Come on dear, you know the truth of their mindset as well as I do:  if you did not vote for Trump - and you do not cheer, salute and support him now and every single thing he does and says, then you are a Hillary supporter and NOT a Conservative.  We were told that ad-infinitum.

It's the same bullshit one gets from those who insist that if you do not support the pope - you are not a Christian at all.
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 04:26:42 pm »
Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

That's a ridiculous statement.  It was not the time to put part of our country in danger by more endless haggeling.
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 04:40:45 pm »
The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?

I want to write something, but I don't want it to be distorted nor taken the wrong way, @jpsb.

The question you ask is exactly how liberals push their agenda.  "What is so wrong with [result]?" --
 where the result is provided sans consequencesor other conditions -- leads people to have to answer "nothing" or look like they are heartless.   "What's wrong with feeding everyone?"  "What's wrong with healthcare for everyone?"  etc.  It makes it look like Socialism is GRAND!

The thing is, nothing's wrong with the results...but the key is that they're asking the wrong question.  Feeding everyone's fine, but that's not the issue.  Healthcare for everyone is fine, but that's not the issue.

And "getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds" is fine....

....but that's not the issue!

And conservatives realize that, so that's why conservatives aren't answering your red herring.
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2017, 05:02:12 pm »
LOL. Get it right, Mitch and Ryan were the ones playing politics with disaster relief, not Trump he did what he had to to get those funds.

This is the exact reason why I suspended my normal revulsion at dealing with the Democrats in this one instance.  It was obvious to me and just about everybody else Ryan and Chinless were going to take a stab at wringing something out of somebody to get the Hurricane relief bill, and that would have gone poorly for them and the GOP whether they realized it or not.  The GOP "leadership" in Congress have developed tin ears WRT the voters' opinion of them.

In effect, Trump saved Ryan and McConnell from themselves.  And I say this not as an Ever Trump nor a Never Trump.  I'm not in a camp, I'm just wanting to see the right things happen.
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Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2017, 05:07:04 pm »
Thank God the Wise and Powerful Trump extended the debt limit for 3 months.  Just thank God.

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 05:14:02 pm »
Come on dear, you know the truth of their mindset as well as I do:  if you did not vote for Trump - and you do not cheer, salute and support him now and every single thing he does and says, then you are a Hillary supporter and NOT a Conservative.  We were told that ad-infinitum.

It's the same bullshit one gets from those who insist that if you do not support the pope - you are not a Christian at all.

Damn Invar, you're casting me as a heretic! Lol

I love the Jesuits, though I disagree with the current Pope most of the time. He's doing his best  to go down in history as the first, and last, Jesuit pope.
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