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Washington National Cathedral to remove windows honoring Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson
By Mallory Shelbourne - 09/06/17 12:33 PM EDT

The Washington National Cathedral on Tuesday voted to take down stained glass windows honoring Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson. 

A letter from the Episcopal Diocese of Washington’s Bishop, Marianne Edgar Budde, the National Cathedral’s chapter chair, John Donoghue, and its dean, Randy Hollerith explains that the Cathedral first began a dialogue about slavery and racial justice following the 2015 shooting at an African-American church in Charleston, S.C. that killed nine church-goers.

“The Chapter believes that these windows are not only inconsistent with our current mission to serve as a house of prayer for all people, but also a barrier to our important work on racial justice and racial reconciliation,” the letter said. “Their association with racial oppression, human subjugation and white supremacy does not belong in the sacred fabric of this Cathedral.”

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https://cathedral.org/press-room/announcement-future-lee-jackson-windows/

Announcement on the Future of the Lee-Jackson Windows

September 6, 2017



Dear friends,

Two years ago, following a tragic shooting at a church in Charleston, S.C., then-Dean Gary Hall called for the removal of two stained glass windows at the Cathedral that honor Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson.

At that time, we began a process to engage this community in deep questions of racial justice, the legacy of slavery and God’s call to us in the 21st century. Over the past two years, we have heard from deeply passionate voices who have engaged with us and held us accountable to this process, and we thank them.

The programs we have hosted, the conversations within our community and national events have brought greater focus on the key question facing us: Are these windows, installed in 1953, an appropriate part of the sacred fabric of a spiritual home for the nation?

After considerable prayer and deliberation, the Cathedral Chapter voted Tuesday to immediately remove the windows. The Chapter believes that these windows are not only inconsistent with our current mission to serve as a house of prayer for all people, but also a barrier to our important work on racial justice and racial reconciliation. Their association with racial oppression, human subjugation and white supremacy does not belong in the sacred fabric of this Cathedral.

These windows will be deconsecrated, removed, conserved and stored until we can determine a more appropriate future for them. The window openings and stone work in the Lee-Jackson Bay will be covered over until we determine what will go in their place.

There are several things that we know to be true:

  • Whatever their origins, we recognize that these windows are more than benign historical markers. For many of God’s children, they are an obstacle to worship in a sacred space; for some, these and other Confederate memorials serve as lampposts along a path that leads back to racial subjugation and oppression.
  • A central question we have asked throughout this process is what narratives are shared within the sacred fabric of the Cathedral, and which are yet untold. We have concluded that these windows tell an incomplete and misleading account of our history. We are committed to finding ways to offer a richer, more balanced expression of our nation’s history.
  • We have asked whether it is possible to contextualize these windows or to augment them with other narratives. The Chapter concluded that there is no way to adequately contextualize these windows while keeping them within the sacred fabric of the Cathedral.
  • We want to be clear that we are not attempting to remove history, but rather are removing two windows from the sacred fabric of the Cathedral that do not reflect our values. We believe these windows can yet have a second life as an effective teaching tool in a place and context yet to be determined.
  • The recent violence in Charlottesville brought urgency to our discernment process.  We find ourselves compelled by the witness of others, moved by the presence of God in our midst and convicted that the Holy Spirit is pointing us toward the answer. The continued presence of white supremacy, anti-Semitism and other forms of hate in our nation cannot be ignored – nor will they be solved simply by removing these windows or other monuments. The racial wounds that we have seen across our nation compel us to renew our commitment to building God’s Beloved Community.
    There are questions we cannot yet answer, such as what will replace these windows. Those answers will come after careful thought and deliberation. But we know this for sure: while this part of our work has reached its end, the harder task of working for racial justice, combating intolerance and fostering reconciliation continues with renewed urgency.

We recognize that there are people of goodwill who disagree with our decision, and also others who have been hurt or confused by the amount of time it took us to reach it. We trust, however, that what unites us in Christ is greater than our differences. We continue to hold the entire Cathedral community in prayer as we strive always to see each other as beloved children of God.

In the coming weeks and months, the Cathedral leadership will create opportunities for all in the Cathedral community to express their views and feelings. We promise to listen carefully to all who are willing to share. And we renew our commitment to follow Jesus and do our part to build the Kingdom of God, on earth as it is in heaven.

Faithfully,

The Right Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde
Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Washington

The Very Rev. Randolph Marshall Hollerith
Dean, Washington National Cathedral

John Donoghue
Chair, Cathedral Chapter
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The window openings and stone work in the Lee-Jackson Bay will be covered over until we determine what will go in their place.

Let me guess . . .

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Last I heard, the parish was forced to halve its budget due to financial problems.  Who is going to pay for the new windows?

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What flipping weenies! This is what Andrew Wilkow calls the "history of now." How on earth did people worship all those years the windows were there? 1984.
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Good.

Traitors to the United States should never be commemorated.  Let alone in the capitol of the nation they committed treason against.

They, like Benedict Arnold, willingly killed Americans in a four year act of treason.

They are burning in hell for it.

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Good.

Traitors to the United States should never be commemorated.  Let alone in the capitol of the nation they committed treason against.

They, like Benedict Arnold, willingly killed Americans in a four year act of treason.

They are burning in hell for it.
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I will never again set foot in that edifice which has surrendered history to revisionism, just as they have surrendered The Almighty.

I will.  I intend to go there before the Vandals deface the place.  And give them a piece of my mind face to face.
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Good.

Traitors to the United States should never be commemorated.  Let alone in the capitol of the nation they committed treason against.

They, like Benedict Arnold, willingly killed Americans in a four year act of treason.

They are burning in hell for it.
@gogogodzilla Good.

Traitors to the United States should never be commemorated.  Let alone in have the capitol of the nation they committed treason against. they created against the sovereign king

They, like Benedict Arnold Judas , willingly killed Americans Good British citizens in a four year act of treason.

They are burning in hell for it. We must destroy all  monuments to those traitors Washington, Jefferson, Madison Adams, Franklin, etc.....

Here is a little historical fact for your liberal mindset. Germany is keeping Auschwitz so that they NEVER make the mistake of allowing a tyrannical dictator to come to power again. Liberals like yourself have this need to destroy these testaments to the past I have to ask are you so anxious to doom us to repeating these mistakes?
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Good.

Traitors to the United States should never be commemorated.  Let alone in the capitol of the nation they committed treason against.

They, like Benedict Arnold, willingly killed Americans in a four year act of treason.

They are burning in hell for it.

I hope there are no American Indians depicted in stained glass.

IMO its hilarious that in a place of worship that has been so careful to be politically correct in whom it honors there is still a 'Wilson Bay' containing the remains of an avowed racist president who re-segregated the armed services.

But then again he was a democrat.
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Traitors to the United States should never be commemorated.  Let alone in have the capitol of the nation they committed treason against. they created against the sovereign king

They, like Benedict Arnold Judas , willingly killed Americans Good British citizens in a four year act of treason.

They are burning in hell for it. We must destroy all  monuments to those traitors Washington, Jefferson, Madison Adams, Franklin, etc.....

Here is a little historical fact for your liberal mindset. Germany is keeping Auschwitz so that they NEVER make the mistake of allowing a tyrannical dictator to come to power again. Liberals like yourself have this need to destroy these testaments to the past I have to ask are you so anxious to doom us to repeating these mistakes?


Why are you an American, then?

You are showing some ISIS-level hatred of America here... and you have the gall to continue to claim America citizenship.

x x x

For me, if someone takes up arms against America... they are a traitor.  And the only good traitor is a dead one.

And providing aid and succor to traitors makes one a traitor as well.

D@#n those that hate America and d@#n those who kill us!  No matter when or where.
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Why are you an American, then?

You are showing some ISIS-level hatred of America here... and you have the gall to continue to claim America citizenship.

x x x

For me, if someone takes up arms against America... they are a traitor.  And the only good traitor is a dead one.

And providing aid and succor to traitors makes one a traitor as well.

D@#n those that hate America and d@#n those who kill us!  No matter when or where.

Oh boy... you're going to be a fun one.
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Why are you an American, then?

You are showing some ISIS-level hatred of America here... and you have the gall to continue to claim America citizenship.

x x x

For me, if someone takes up arms against America... they are a traitor.  And the only good traitor is a dead one.

And providing aid and succor to traitors makes one a traitor as well.

D@#n those that hate America and d@#n those who kill us!  No matter when or where.
Those folks, with the exception of a few in South Carolina (and that may be debated at length), were defending their home states against an invading army.  Wouldn't you? It wasn't until later in the War that they invaded back. The Armies of two States marched into another State, leading to the first casualties of the war. Do you know what State that was?
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Their association with racial oppression, human subjugation and white supremacy does not belong in the sacred fabric of this Cathedral.
The sad part is how utterly ignorant these people are of history.
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Why are you an American, then?

You are showing some ISIS-level hatred of America here... and you have the gall to continue to claim America citizenship.

x x x

For me, if someone takes up arms against America... they are a traitor.  And the only good traitor is a dead one.

And providing aid and succor to traitors makes one a traitor as well.

D@#n those that hate America and d@#n those who kill us!  No matter when or where.
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