The Democrats Got What They Wanted, But It’s Cool Because Trump Really Stuck It To Paul Ryan

[jpsb]

As someone who voted for Trump knowing he was liable to do things like this, I'm not surprised.
I knew he would do a few things to satisfy his base and conservatives, but in the end, it's all about Trump. I should say Trump "winning."
He doesn't give a flip about conservative principles and doesn't work very hard or at all with Republican leaders. 
The truth if probably somewhere in the middle. He's still an improvement over Hillary, but that is not good enough.
But if he's broken all his ties to Republicans, what exactly is going to get done?
I blame Trump's inadequacies a lot more than I do those evil Rinos for stalling a conservative program.

@goatprairie

For 7 years the GOP canpaigned on the promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act. For seven years they looked the American people in the eye and said give us the presidency and we will kill ACA. We gave them the House, the Senate and the presidency and they broke theirs promises on a lot more then the ACA. Are the Democrats bad? Yes and so are Republicans.

[Sanguine]

@goatprairie

For 7 years the GOP canpaigned on the promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act. For seven years they looked the American people in the eye and said give us the presidency and we will kill ACA. We gave them the House, the Senate and the presidency and they broke theirs promises on a lot more then the ACA. Are the Democrats bad? Yes and so are Republicans.

I'm baffled by that line of reasoning.  Does this somehow excuse Trump's actions?

[aligncare]

When's the last time a Republican president thought he was going to get better deals with a bunch of Marxist Democrats then some squishy Pubbies?

Sorry, but a squishy republican leadership is far more counterproductive to our cause. We can clearly defeat democrat ideas with a unified GOP, which we currently do not have.

[roamer_1]

I'm baffled by that line of reasoning.  Does this somehow excuse Trump's actions?

SOSDD. Trump does something incredibly stupid, and someone else gets the blame. And the psychophants raise their hands in praise.

Nothing to be baffled about.   

[Oceander]

The president is elected by the people, democrat, republican and non-aligned. His job is to represent all Americans.

Republican leadership is supposed to represent republican traditions, ideas and principles.

When's the last time Republican voters got that? Maybe the Republican Revolution of 1994?

[Cripplecreek]

They're like Moonies or something.

[Smokin Joe]

Right now GOP leadership is the primary enemy, Ryan and McConnell, after they flip flopped on repealing the ACA I thought every realized just how utterly despicable GOP leadership was.

We knew that going in. It hasn't changed.

[Smokin Joe]

SOSDD. Trump does something incredibly stupid, and someone else gets the blame. And the psychophants raise their hands in praise.

Nothing to be baffled about.   

The reality is that the measure needed 60 votes to pass. All the Dems had to do to defeat it was to refuse to vote for it. They didn't even need the usual turncoats on their side to beat this one. It will be presented by the MSM as a measure to (solely, unless the Dems are bragging) fund hurricane relief, and little else. Which means no one from affected areas dares to vote against it or it will be used against them next election.

For all that multidimensional chess stuff, the GOP got painted into a tight corner on this one. 

[goatprairie]

@goatprairie

For 7 years the GOP canpaigned on the promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act. For seven years they looked the American people in the eye and said give us the presidency and we will kill ACA. We gave them the House, the Senate and the presidency and they broke theirs promises on a lot more then the ACA. Are the Democrats bad? Yes and so are Republicans.

So because instead of getting 90-100% of what you want you're only getting about 60-70% with your own people,  you throw in with the opposition who hate you and will cooperate on about maybe 0-10% of what you want,  the latter course is better?
There's no way in hell that congressional Pubbies are as bad as standard Democrats.
Trump is throwing a fit because Ryan and McConnell don't kiss his orange kiester like all his private business flunkies do.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The people of Texas got what they needed.  And this was the whole point of the deal.

[Sanguine]

The people of Texas got what they needed.  And this was the whole point of the deal.

Yeah, to hell with the f'ing debt that we are loading onto our children and grandchildren.  Who cares about that? 

[XenaLee]

Yeah, to hell with the f'ing debt that we are loading onto our children and grandchildren.  Who cares about that?

The actual debt isn't even the issue. It's the crushing collapse that will eventually (like death and taxes) occur probably sooner than later, that will disaffect our children and grandchildren.  It will make Weimar look like a girl-scout picnic in the park, by comparison.  People will be starving and rioting for survival (See: Venezuela).

It's going to happen. It's a matter of when, not if.  And yet still....the 'greatest deal' maker in DC kicks that same can down that same road... rather than even try to fix it. 

And why not?  It's not like HIS kids or family will be scrounging around for scraps of food when the SHTF.  Right?  When you have that kind of wealth, you have long ago protected that wealth and made shock-sure that even when the collapse happens, you and yours will be just fine.

[jpsb]

Yeah, to hell with the f'ing debt that we are loading onto our children and grandchildren.  Who cares about that?

@Sanguine
Did you support George W Bush? If so you lost rights to talk about our debt.

[jpsb]

I'm baffled by that line of reasoning.  Does this somehow excuse Trump's actions?

Trump had to get broke FEMA some money and he did. Elected Republicans with some exceptions are just as corrupt as the Rats. That was the lesson learned when the GOP failed to repeal OCare.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yeah, to hell with the f'ing debt that we are loading onto our children and grandchildren.  Who cares about that?

Ah, yes .... the Christ-like compassion for the suffering by conservatives is again on full display.  Let's reduce the debt on the backs of our wounded.

Still wondering why conservatives can't get elected national dog catcher?

[jpsb]

So because instead of getting 90-100% of what you want you're only getting about 60-70% with your own people,  you throw in with the opposition who hate you and will cooperate on about maybe 0-10% of what you want,  the latter course is better?
There's no way in hell that congressional Pubbies are as bad as standard Democrats.
Trump is throwing a fit because Ryan and McConnell don't kiss his orange kiester like all his private business flunkies do.

Congress haven't given Trump squat. They won't even fund The Wall.

[skeeter]

@Sanguine
Did you support George W Bush? If so you lost rights to talk about our debt.

I supported Bush in the general election for the same reason I supported Trump.

Doesn't mean I supported/have to support their failures.

[aligncare]

@Sanguine
Did you support George W Bush? If so you lost rights to talk about our debt.

Besides, Trump has already demonstrated in numerous ways his propensity to cut wasteful programs and cut costs.

He's only been president scant months, during which time his agenda has been hampered by congressional foot dragging, a scathing media and, as Ed Klein details in his soon to be released book on the subject, an orchestrated and funded war on Trump by some very powerful people.

[jpsb]

Ah, yes .... the Christ-like compassion for the suffering by conservatives is again on full display.  Let's reduce the debt on the backs of our wounded.

Still wondering why conservatives can't get elected national dog catcher?

Thanks to George W Bush we lost our chance to manage our way out of debt. But all these NeverTrumpers now screaming debt, debt, debt were big fans of W. "The Debt" is just another GOP scam like ACA repeal, as soon as they are in a position to do something about it they go on a spending spree.

[jpsb]

I supported Bush in the general election for the same reason I supported Trump.

Doesn't mean I supported/have to support their failures.

I voted for Bush too, my reasons were Al Gore and John Kerry. But Bush blew up the national debt, brought chaos to the middle east/north Africa and allowed tens of million illegal aliens to invade. It might have been a mistake to vote Bush.

[skeeter]

I voted for Bush too, my reasons were Al Gore and John Kerry. But Bush blew up the national debt, brought chaos to the middle east/north Africa and allowed tens of million illegal aliens to invade. It might have been a mistake to vote Bush.

I voted for Bush to keep the democrats out. I didn't vote for him to act like a democrat. Same with Trump.

And you can bet I'll bitch about it if he does. Its all I can do.

[aligncare]

This is what Democrats got from Trump in his first 7 months in office:

1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch

2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria

3. He took us out of TPP

4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)

5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6

6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a seven year high

7. Arranged from 7% to 24% Tariff on lumber from Canada

8. Bids for border wall are well underway

9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord

10. Keystone pipeline approved

11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%

12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees

13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans

14. More than 1,000,000 new jobs created

15. Median household income at a 7-year high

16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history

17. China agreed to American import of beef

18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks

19. Rollback of a Regulation to boost coal mining

20. MOAB for ISIS

21. Travel ban reinstated

22. Executive order for religious freedom

23. Jump started NASA

24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget

25. Targeting of MS13 gangs

26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants

27. Signed 41 bills to date

28. Created a commission on child trafficking

29. Created a commission on voter fraud

30. Created a commission for opioids addiction

31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients

32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007

33. Historic Black College University initiative

34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act

35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims

36. Reversed Dodd-Frank

37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning

38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement

39. End of DAPA program

40. Stopped companies from moving out of America

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs

42. Encouraged country to once again - ‘Buy American and hire American’

43. Cutting regulations: 2 for every new one created

44. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first

45. Apprentice program

46. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years

47. $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota

48. Denied FBI a new building

49. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation

50. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll

51. Dept of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history)

52. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt

53. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years

54. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence and Economic Growth

55. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America

56. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman

57. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time frame, dated March 15, 2017, to trim  the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch. (Observe the push-back the leaks the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)

58. Last, refused his Presidential pay checks. Donated first quarter to Veterans issues; second quarter went to the Betsy Voss for her version of better schools (Charter Schools are certainly on the list)

[aligncare]

But, y'all are right, Trump sold out to the democrats. 

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine
Did you support George W Bush? If so you lost rights to talk about our debt.

Bull.  You don't get to decide who has the right to talk about what.

[Sanguine]

Trump had to get broke FEMA some money and he did. Elected Republicans with some exceptions are just as corrupt as the Rats. That was the lesson learned when the GOP failed to repeal OCare.

Ah.  So that excuses Trump's actions?