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The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History

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Leftists these days are intent on revising our country's history and destroying our historical monuments. Race card, KKK card, Nazi card, or whatever is their “card” of the moment, they use to justify their far left goals.

As long as Donald Trump remains president, leftists will continue to complain, protest, and incite chaos to push their socialist agenda. They wish to tear up our constitution and burn our flag. That's what makes them leftists.

When leftists spew their revisionist history, and use it as an excuse for violence and anarchy, then they have to be dealt with accordingly. Their latest tirade is vandalizing Civil War memorials such as statues of Confederate heroes.

Countering the left's version of the Civil War era is important in memory of all those who died during that war. The honored dead would want the truth to be told, not some fabricated leftist story.

First, let's address the issue of slavery. We all agree that slavery is despicable and unacceptable. No one in the civilized world would debate that any longer. However the fact is that millions of black Americans owe their very lives to slavery. Without slavery, most black Americans living today would have never been born.

Revisionist history solely blames whites for the slave trade, when actually both blacks and whites were equally complicit. White slave traders were customers of the powerful black tribes of Africa. These powerful black tribes conquered the weaker black tribes, then offered the slaves to the white slave traders.

These white slave traders purchased the slaves for various prices at the trading posts on the African coast. Without this profitable transaction for the stronger black tribes, these captured blacks would have instead been slaughtered. Hence the lineage of most black people in America would have ceased to exist over 150 years ago.

Resources in Africa have always been scarce. Wars among black tribes for land, water, animal herds, and other needs for survival are recorded as some of the worst in history. Of course whites throughout history have also slaughtered each other. Historic brutality is shared by all races, colors, and creeds. So blacks certainly are not exempt from “man's inhumanity to man” unless revisionist history tells the tale.

Whenever some leftist demands “Reparations for slavery” because blacks were the victims of slavery, inform them that white taxpayers and others for decades have helped by giving blacks countless billions of dollars thru welfare payments, food stamps, and a wide assortment of other government subsidies. If any reparations were actually due from Americans, then black people have already been amply paid and more.

If American blacks want to collect unpaid reparations, then they should seek out the descendants of blacks in Africa who initiated and supplied the slave trade. This wouldn't be that difficult to do. The strong black tribes that were responsible for propagating the slave trade, over time merged with other strong black tribes to form various African nations. So it would just be a matter of tracing the founding of certain African countries to find those culpable.

No country in Africa, other than Liberia which offered freed black slaves an opportunity to live there, has ever given American blacks anything. American blacks could petition these African countries for reparations, but it is highly unlikely that any monies would ever be received.

What happened to Southern blacks after the Civil War ended? Some migrated up North to find work in the cities. Others moved out West, became cowboys, and joined with whites in the systematic slaughter of the Indians. However most Southern blacks went right back to work for their former slave master, but now as a paid employee.

The fact of numerous Southern blacks reuniting with their former slave masters, is proof that most plantation owners treated their slaves with dignity and respect. If they didn't, the now free blacks would have never gone back to work there.

Today there are millions of black people who have achieved success in America. But more needs to happen, primarily in the inner cities where for decades, the Democratic Party has miserably failed its black constituency.

The good news is that we elected Donald Trump as president. President Trump is a uniter, not a divider. He has placed a priority in his administration of putting America first, and that means providing all Americans with a better opportunity for themselves and their families.

Now, let's address the issue of the Civil War and why it was fought. Revisionist history comes into play that says the Civil War occurred because of slavery. That premise is not entirely accurate. Yes, of course slavery was a part of it. However the fact is that the Civil War was fought over cultural differences between the North and South.

More revisionist history is referring to the South as traitors. That is a false narrative. The Southern people were not traitors, they were rebels. They rebelled against an unfair system of taxes and mandates from the North whom culturally they had little in common.

The South had their lifestyle, and the North had their lifestyle. The North was fine with the status quo because they benefited economically from the South. But Southerners had grown tired of Northern politicians in Washington DC telling them what to do.

Southerners felt ignored and unappreciated, yet they were highly taxed. To the Southern people it was similar to taxation without representation, which was a factor in our Revolutionary War. The bottom line is that the South simply wanted their own country in which to live, prosper, and make their own laws.

When forming the Confederate States of America, the South wished for a peaceful breakup, then a continuation of a trading relationship with the North. The South wanted to continue to provide the North with agricultural goods, while buying industrial goods from them.

So instead of the North dictating policy and taxation to the South, the South with their own country could now take care of all that to their own satisfaction. While not having to bow down to the ruling pleasure of Northern politicians who treated Southerners as lackeys rather than fellow citizens.

This could have all been resolved peacefully thru the political process. Slavery would have eventually been abolished in the Confederate states for a number of reasons. Not only was slavery morally wrong, but it had become bad business in many aspects. Unfortunately the entire situation spiraled out of control and war ensued.

The South made two grave tactical mistakes which led to the demise of the Confederacy. One is that they should have never first attacked the North at Fort Sumter, even though it was on Southern soil. This call to war from impatience to achieve the split, motivated the North to battle.

A far worse mistake a few years later was Robert E. Lee invading Northern soil with Southern troops. Lee had no intention of trying to conquer the North, but the Northern people didn't believe that when they heard about Confederate soldiers marching into Pennsylvania.

This Southern “invasion” motivated the North to a new level. A level to which the superior industrial and military strength of the North, now had a highly angered populace.

Along with the Southern army defeat at Gettysburg, the war was now lost for the South without any realistic hope of keeping their new country. After Gettysburg, it was only a matter of time before the South was forced into unconditional surrender.

At this point there wasn't any possibility that the North was going to allow a hostile nation such as the Confederacy to border them. In the Northern mindset, the South if left alone as a country could attempt to conquer them sometime in the future. So the North wound up “conquering” the South, and the United States of America was made whole again.

Lastly, let's address the desecration and destruction of Confederate monuments. This should be unacceptable to all Americans. A famous old saying is “Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it” and that is absolutely true. History has shown in other countries that whitewashing the past can lead to a resurgence of similar atrocities from the past.

Confederate monuments not only help us to remember the past, but honor our fellow Americans who fought and died for their noble cause. These monuments also honor the tens of millions of Southern descendants who are alive today, contributing mightily in producing agricultural and industrial goods, and in many other ways which benefit our country.

Tearing down these Confederate monuments, dishonors every Southerner and all patriotic Americans. All Confederate monuments should remain, and any which have been torn down should be restored. Those with a desire for revisionist history must never be allowed to erase our heritage.

America is the greatest country in the world. The successful evolution of our country was brilliantly setup by our Founding Fathers. Our magnificent constitution and beautiful flag ensures that we will continue to make America great long into the future.

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It's a trojan horse, a means to an end. The end being getting rid of all our history, except of course anything that pays tribute to communism.
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It's a trojan horse, a means to an end. The end being getting rid of all our history, except of course anything that pays tribute to communism.

Excellent point about the left wishing to get rid of all our history, and of course re-write it with their communist viewpoint.

Wouldn't surprise me if they'd like to write new history books, proclaiming that Barack Hussein Obama was the first US president...and I'm almost not kidding.

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It's a trojan horse, a means to an end. The end being getting rid of all our history, except of course anything that pays tribute to communism.

All you need to do is check the history of totalitarians down through the ages.

Hell, the Pharaohs would chisel each others names off their monuments.

Its as if they can't help it - at some point any tyrant will try to change history to suit themselves.

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All you need to do is check the history of totalitarians down through the ages.

Hell, the Pharaohs would chisel each others names off their monuments.

Its as if they can't help it - at some point any tyrant will try to change history to suit themselves.

The left are tyrants or at least they certainly wish to be.

I'm not going to debate the word "tyrant" with any leftist, but considering our country and history, anyone attempting to suppress or alter our First Amendment, to me is a tyrant. And it's obvious from the events at Berkeley and many other examples such as constantly trying to disrupt President Trump's speeches, that leftists have no regard for our First Amendment unless they agree with what's being said.

I fully live by the old saying, "I do not agree with a word you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." The problem with leftists is they do not wish to extend to us the same courtesy.

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Excellent point about the left wishing to get rid of all our history, and of course re-write it with their communist viewpoint.

Wouldn't surprise me if they'd like to write new history books, proclaiming that Barack Hussein Obama was the first US president...and I'm almost not kidding.

Agree and welcome!
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All you need to do is check the history of totalitarians down through the ages.

Hell, the Pharaohs would chisel each others names off their monuments.

Its as if they can't help it - at some point any tyrant will try to change history to suit themselves.
Taliban. NO wonder the Left is so schmoozy with Islamists.
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Agree and welcome!

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Taliban. NO wonder the Left is so schmoozy with Islamists.

It's sort of astonishing to me the schmooziness that leftists have with Islamists. My guess is that the left hates religious Christians and Jews so much, that the left is willing to align themselves with anyone who feels the same way.

What these silly, ignorant leftists don't seem to comprehend for some inexplicable reason, is that if Islamists gain supreme power in a country, the first ones they eliminate are those such as leftists.

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   Welcome to TBR @stephen50right
   Brilliant analysis, directly on point
   Thanks for sharing.
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Re: The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2017, 02:59:55 am »
More lost causers' arguments, there was no tariff, if former slaves were treated so well after the Civil War, why was there a civil rights movement? Why the lynchings? And let's not forget that the Confederacy was made of Democrats.



Where were voting rights? Why send the army to integrate schools in Arkansas?

Antebellum South was a white supremacist society and any number of statements lend credence to that. One only need read the articles of secession by the states and so on.

Those slave owners were democrats,  democrats again, show themselves to be on the wrong side of history in 1860 and nowadays.
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Re: The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2017, 03:03:14 am »
The Southern troops under Jeb Stuart and even likely under Robert E. Lee massacred blacks, the immorality of the antebellum South; and their enslavement of human beings until this day, has been part of the disaster in cities like Chicago and Detroit. Those voters really should be voting in the South; but of course, they didn't even have full voting rights right up to the 1960s. Lee, Stuart, Davis, Democrats.
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Confederates Speak: Yes, We Fought the Civil War Over Slavery

By Donna Ladd June 21, 2015

If you grew up in the South, and especially if you're white, you've likely been told repeatedly (maybe even in a classroom) that "the Civil War wasn't fought over slavery." (They might have even called it the "War Between the States" or even the "War of Northern Aggression.") "It was about economics," they might say. Or, almost always, "It was over state's rights," as if that somehow means that it wasn't actually over a state's right to allow its white citizens to own and abuse black human beings. It's remarkable how many white southerners, and others around the country, actually believe this myth. And it is regularly used as an excuse to justify keeping the Confederate battle flag and other symbols of the Confederacy and the "lost cause" of slavery imbedded into government, public and private schools, and some state universities in every way possible—especially in the taxpayer-funded state flags that still adorn several state capitols, including Mississippi's.

But the problem is: The Confederate leaders themselves had no reason then to hide what they were fighting the Civil War over. They were forthright about both why they were seceding into the Confederacy and their beliefs about the white supremacy (and its spoils of wealth) that they were willing to fighting to keep in place. Ever since I first read Mississippi's Declaration of Secession, I've used it as a response to someone who decides to spread these myths in my presence.

Continued: http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/weblogs/jackblog/2015/jun/21/confederates-speak-yes-we-fought-the-civil-war-ove/
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Re: The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2017, 04:52:59 am »
More lost causers' arguments, there was no tariff, if former slaves were treated so well after the Civil War, why was there a civil rights movement? Why the lynchings? And let's not forget that the Confederacy was made of Democrats.



Where were voting rights? Why send the army to integrate schools in Arkansas?

Antebellum South was a white supremacist society and any number of statements lend credence to that. One only need read the articles of secession by the states and so on.

Those slave owners were democrats,  democrats again, show themselves to be on the wrong side of history in 1860 and nowadays.

"Those slave owners were democrats,  democrats again, show themselves to be on the wrong side of history in 1860 and nowadays."

Completely agree!

It's arguable that slavery never went away in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has ruled most if not all of the inner city black areas with an iron grip for decades. Considering that gang violence and drug dealers basically terrorize the good people of these neighborhoods, these poor folks have very little freedom and liberty. Yes, more freedom and liberty than slaves, but really how much more?

Of course the inner city blacks these days aren't forced to go to work in the cotton fields. All they are expected to do is go to the voting booth and pull the lever for their Democratic Party masters who provide them with food, clothing, shelter, and basically free healthcare because the poor go to the hospital emergency rooms for treatment, and never pay the bill - they couldn't care less about ruining their credit score.

Remember that the Democratic Party in the slavery era, also provided their slaves with food, clothing, shelter, and free healthcare. Sound familiar? The Democratic Party hasn't changed - they just cleverly shined up their act for modern times.

The disturbing thing about the Democratic Party is they wish to "enslave" everyone else by offering free almost everything as long as you are beholden to them. They just print more money to pay for it all and fiscal responsibility be damned. The Democratic Party has truly become a party of malignancy to our country.

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Re: The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2017, 06:09:16 am »
It's sort of astonishing to me the schmooziness that leftists have with Islamists. My guess is that the left hates religious Christians and Jews so much, that the left is willing to align themselves with anyone who feels the same way.

What these silly, ignorant leftists don't seem to comprehend for some inexplicable reason, is that if Islamists gain supreme power in a country, the first ones they eliminate are those such as leftists.
Precisely. But they've been spouting "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." for so long, they believe it. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is just the enemy of your enemy, and any other relationship is completely independent of that, but hatred blinds people to many things.
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Re: The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2017, 09:27:50 am »
Precisely. But they've been spouting "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." for so long, they believe it. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is just the enemy of your enemy, and any other relationship is completely independent of that, but hatred blinds people to many things.

Leftists must know that Islamists throw gays off tall buildings, they must know that Islamists are killing countless innocent Christians and Jews in a number of different Muslim countries, and they must know about how Islam treats infidels, as well as a wide assortment of other murderous behavior.

Leftists don't seem to mind any of that, but if a police officer defends himself against an attempted murderer (Michael Brown) who tried to grab the police officer's gun with killing the police officer obviously on his violent thug mind, then leftists protest and riot over that. Sometimes it's almost hard to believe how anyone can think this way?

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 09:34:20 am »
Leftists must know that Islamists throw gays off tall buildings, they must know that Islamists are killing countless innocent Christians and Jews in a number of different Muslim countries, and they must know about how Islam treats infidels, as well as a wide assortment of other murderous behavior.

Leftists don't seem to mind any of that, but if a police officer defends himself against an attempted murderer (Michael Brown) who tried to grab the police officer's gun with killing the police officer obviously on his violent thug mind, then leftists protest and riot over that. Sometimes it's almost hard to believe how anyone can think this way?
It isn't thinking. It can't be. It is rabble-roused emoting, a collective incoherent tantrum.
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Re: The Unjust Destruction of Civil War Monuments - Exposing Revisionist History
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2017, 10:21:57 am »
My relatives fought for the South and in some cases, died for it, no shame in that, now, anyone who tries to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, tries to condone gross evil as the Confederacy did, are going to hear from me.

There is not the famous underground railroad, extending to I think even Canada, to help slaves escape because afterwards, they wanted to go back to their owners, there may have been some of that, I've heard of that happening but those are the exception and not the rule.

It too another 100 years and a lot of bloodshed, hardship, denying voting rights after the Civil War to even start to restore dignity to those that it was denied to prior to the Civil War.

We can recognize our history, leave the statues up, there just stupid statues as Charles Barkley said, they are mostly of Democrats, that is their baggage.

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Leftists must know that Islamists throw gays off tall buildings, they must know that Islamists are killing countless innocent Christians and Jews in a number of different Muslim countries, and they must know about how Islam treats infidels, as well as a wide assortment of other murderous behavior.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1596056/horrifying-moment-isis-killers-push-gay-man-off-a-roof-in-iraq-as-punishment-for-his-sexuality/
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