Hurricane Harvey Public Advisory

[Smokin Joe]

I can see where someone needs to figure out why everything is draining so slowly.

That much stagnant water is going to make for some serious health problems.

[thackney]

I can see where someone needs to figure out why everything is draining so slowly.

That much stagnant water is going to make for some serious health problems.

The concept is wrong.  It isn't draining slowly.  It is draining a massive amount.  Fast flows with massive volumes still take a while.

Houston ship channels flows were so massive and fast flowing it shut down ship traffic.

[Smokin Joe]

The concept is wrong.  It isn't draining slowly.  It is draining a massive amount.  Fast flows with massive volumes still take a while.

Houston ship channels flows were so massive and fast flowing it shut down ship traffic.

Just too much to drain off quickly, not some issue that can be addressed. Well, that 50 inches (plus) in places is an inconceivable amount of water coming down. Most folks couldn't envision that much snow, much less rain.

[catfish1957]

Just too much to drain off quickly, not some issue that can be addressed. Well, that 50 inches (plus) in places is an inconceivable amount of water coming down. Most folks couldn't envision that much snow, much less rain.

Anyone know how most of the plants fared along the HSC?  Hopefully, only tank farms were impacted.

[Elderberry]

Anyone know how most of the plants fared along the HSC?  Hopefully, only tank farms were impacted.

I didn't find a status on just the ship channel plants, but I did find this site that gives an overall plant status.

https://www.petrochemwire.com/Frames/Events/Storm/HarveyUpdate.html

[catfish1957]

I didn't find a status on just the ship channel plants, but I did find this site that gives an overall plant status.

https://www.petrochemwire.com/Frames/Events/Storm/HarveyUpdate.html

Excellent source....  thanks.

Though I am retired......   terribly curious.

[thackney]

I didn't find a status on just the ship channel plants, but I did find this site that gives an overall plant status.

https://www.petrochemwire.com/Frames/Events/Storm/HarveyUpdate.html

Thank you for that, I had not seen it before.  Far more detail the DOE report I have been using.

https://energy.gov/oe/downloads/hurricanes-irma-and-harvey-situation-reports

[thackney]

Anyone know how most of the plants fared along the HSC?  Hopefully, only tank farms were impacted.

We have a storage and terminal in between 610 & Beltway 8, adjacent to the Magellan Tank Spill, 11,000 barrels.  The had a tank float off the foundation with the flood waters.  We had very little damage but a trapped crew inside the facility.  An over-the-top security guard, with past experience in the Italian Army, walked through the Washburn Tunnel with the pumps running then swam the rest of the way with a backpack of food.  Police stopped him, then let him continue.  I was amazed they didn't hold him until a boat could be brought.

http://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Magellan-leak-spills-into-Houston-Ship-Channel-12189833.php

Magellan contractor had a welding truck damaged.  Prop on a boat hit the top of the truck cab...

[anubias]

The Trinity is a trickle up here by me. I am assuming they have slowed the flow to give y'all a break. I'll have to take some snaps on my next ride and upload them.

Mosquitoes are crazy up here too.  Too much standing water. As bad as it is here, I can't imagine the swarm down south.

@thackney  I feel terrible for what you are going through. :(

[thackney]

The Trinity is a trickle up here by me. I am assuming they have slowed the flow to give y'all a break. I'll have to take some snaps on my next ride and upload them.

Mosquitoes are crazy up here too.  Too much standing water. As bad as it is here, I can't imagine the swarm down south.

@thackney  I feel terrible for what you are going through. :(

We are only impacted by the Brazos.  And yeah, mosquitoes...  I'm hoping they don't carry off one of my cows or such them dry.

[Bigun]

The Trinity is a trickle up here by me. I am assuming they have slowed the flow to give y'all a break. I'll have to take some snaps on my next ride and upload them.

Mosquitoes are crazy up here too.  Too much standing water. As bad as it is here, I can't imagine the swarm down south.

@thackney  I feel terrible for what you are going through. :(

How far up the Trinity are you?

[thackney]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZO6_f2CDA

[anubias]

How far up the Trinity are you?

Cowtown.

[Bigun]

Cowtown.

AH!  WAY up!  I'm near prison city.

[anubias]

How far up the Trinity are you?

West Fork of the Trinity. I should have made that distinction. Dunno what the east fork looks like.

[anubias]

AH!  WAY up!  I'm near prison city.

What does it look like down there?

[Bigun]

What does it look like down there?

I think it's still a little above normal but nothing serious.  If Harvey had delivered the amount of rain up where you are that he did down here the people downstream would have been in REAL trouble!

[anubias]

I think it's still a little above normal but nothing serious.  If Harvey had delivered the amount of rain up where you are that he did down here the people downstream would have been in REAL trouble!

Agreed. As bad as it is, it could have been much worse. Thankful that weather has held here to keep the spillways from overflowing and sending more water south.

[AllThatJazzZ]

https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/867135046779780/

[IsailedawayfromFR]

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2017/09/reporters_compare_harvey_and_irma_s_impacts.html

Irma May Have Been the Bigger Storm, but the Damage From Harvey’s Storm Surge Will Last for Years

Seems this reporter has never covered a hurricane.

It was not the storm surge, but the rains which caused most of the damage in Harvey.  Rain does not equal Storm Surge

[Smokin Joe]

Seems this reporter has never covered a hurricane.

It was not the storm surge, but the rains which caused most of the damage in Harvey.  Rain does not equal Storm Surge

Precisely. Storm Surge is almost always salt or brackish water. Rain is fresh, and the resultant flooding is as well. Different sort of damage, really, as the salt water is far more corrosive, and much harder on plant life as a rule.

[thackney]

FITTINGS? Fittings are what's holding you back?
You're a bright boy @thackney , surely there is something that can be done!

prayers up, man. I sure hope it works out!

30" diameter flexible, sealing fittings~10 ft long.

Duct tape isn't going to cut it.  Nor is there time at this point.

@roamer_1

Going through this old thread, remembering conversations from two years ago....

(I do have the replacement connectors now.  And had we installed them back then, it would have overtopped the AquaDam by about 6 inches, 12 inches above the rating where it starts to float)

Later that night, the first of our three evacuations.

God be with you.  We evacuated from Rosharon to a friends camping trailer in their driveway in Sienna Plantation, Missouri City.  The 59 ft @ Richmond is going to put more than the Sienna Levees were designed to hold (100 year flood design).  So we may be evacuating again tomorrow.  The 59 ft is expected Tuesday evening.  I understand Greatwood Levees won't hold up to that either.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Going through this old thread, remembering conversations from two years ago....

(I do have the replacement connectors now.  And had we installed them back then, it would have overtopped the AquaDam by about 6 inches, 12 inches above the rating where it starts to float)

Later that night, the first of our three evacuations.

Yeah, I remember all that... And the water went higher than the wall would have helped anyhow...

Sure hope you're all straightened out by now... Last we talked of it, you were coming on sheetrock, I think, and worrying over cabs.... But had not really addressed your shop or outbuildings...

That must have been a long row to hoe... Even if insurance footed the bill more or less...