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'The time is long overdue': Stonewall Jackson's great-great-grandsons call for statue of their Confederate ancestor to be taken down because it's an 'overt symbol of racism'

    On Wednesday, two of Stonewall Jackson's great-great-grandsons called for his statue in Richmond, Virginia to be taken down
    William Jackson Christian and Warren Edmund Christian say their ancestor's statue and all other Confederate monuments are symbols of 'white supremacy'
    'The time is long overdue for them to depart from public display,' they said
    Richmond's mayor said Wednesday that he's assembling a team to consider the 'removal and/or relocation of some or all' of the Confederate statues in the city
    Both William and Warren teach writing at universities - William at Westfield State University in Massachusetts and Warren at UNC Chapel Hill
    Their great-great-grandfather was nicknamed Stonewall for refusing to move his troops in the First Battle of Bull Run

By Associated Press and Dailymail.com Reporter

Published: 10:32 EDT, 17 August 2017 | Updated: 14:47 EDT, 17 August 2017

 

The great-great-grandsons of Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson said the monument to the legendary Confederate general and others in Virginia's capital city were constructed as symbols of white supremacy and should be taken down.

Brothers William 'Jack' Jackson Christian and Warren Edmund Christian wrote a letter to Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney, published by Slate on Wednesday,asking that their ancestor's statute and all others honoring the Confederate cause be taken down from the city's Monument Avenue.

'They are overt symbols of racism and white supremacy, and the time is long overdue for them to depart from public display,' the wrote.

The added: 'We wish to make it clear his statue does not represent us.'

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See, this is what I mean, people re-fight the Civil War, this is Stonewall Jackson's own relatives saying this.

Otherwise, this whole thing "could" get worse, they busted that one young man in a sort of sting with a van-bomb. At this moment, some folks could be planning some outrageous act and when some of these people are in their early 20s, someone like McVeigh was probably around 25. People need to speak up.

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Arguably Stonewall Jackson is an American hero; but as for Bedford Forest, I really am a bit uncertain about that.

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I had a curious thought today.

After enough people die in months ahead do you think someone may actually crack open a history book?

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They should not take down memorials like this. I also think that scum such as the Neo-Nazis and others in that area should not exploit this matter and these statues and memorials. That's the crux of the matter.

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I had a curious thought today.

After enough people die in months ahead do you think someone may actually crack open a history book?

It will have blank pages.     So it does not matter.

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I had a curious thought today.

After enough people die in months ahead do you think someone may actually crack open a history book?

It seems the most motivated activists among the left are determined to finish their crusade just as cane-toad stupid as they were when they got things rolling.

In fact I think they swear an oath to it.

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I had a curious thought today.

After enough people die in months ahead do you think someone may actually crack open a history book?

How many is "enough"?   How many deaths will be enough to pacify the radical, idiot left?  How many deaths will it take to wake the silent rightie majority in America the hell up to what is actually happening?  Questions for the cosmos.
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What is fascinating to me is the speed in which the zeitgeist to erase our own history is taking place.

And erasing history and rewriting it is EXACTLY what happens when a particular group of people are targeted for subjugation, which is always followed by elimination.

Everyone can jump on the express elevator to hell and feel good about denouncing Whiteness, the South, the Confederacy and everything within that culture as being racist, evil and bigoted - and time being past due that it is expunged and removed.

People tied to the eradicated culture are then soon also expunged and removed, it doesn't matter that they disavow and deny their acknowledgment or approval of it.

Fact of history and human nature.
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What is fascinating to me is the speed in which the zeitgeist to erase our own history is taking place.

And erasing history and rewriting it is EXACTLY what happens when a particular group of people are targeted for subjugation, which is always followed by elimination.

Everyone can jump on the express elevator to hell and feel good about denouncing Whiteness, the South, the Confederacy and everything within that culture as being racist, evil and bigoted - and time being past due that it is expunged and removed.

People tied to the eradicated culture are then soon also expunged and removed, it doesn't matter that they disavow and deny their acknowledgment or approval of it.

Fact of history and human nature.

And of course public educators have spent the past 50 years NOT teaching history, specifically US history and the history of global socialist movements in the 18, 19 & 20th centuries, accurately and in context so its all good.
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And of course public educators have spent the past 50 years NOT teaching history, specifically US history and the history of global socialist movements in the 18, 19 & 20th centuries, accurately and in context so its all good.

The aforementioned "educators" and "entertainers" tunneled underneath and dug out our foundations while we ignored the rumblings below our feet and pretended it was nothing of consequence but earthworms.

Now they brought in the heavy earth-moving equipment, bulldozers and Wreckers because now that the foundations are chiseled away - flattening the entire structure is now easy and inevitable.
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What is fascinating to me is the speed in which the zeitgeist to erase our own history is taking place.

And erasing history and rewriting it is EXACTLY what happens when a particular group of people are targeted for subjugation, which is always followed by elimination.

Everyone can jump on the express elevator to hell and feel good about denouncing Whiteness, the South, the Confederacy and everything within that culture as being racist, evil and bigoted - and time being past due that it is expunged and removed.

People tied to the eradicated culture are then soon also expunged and removed, it doesn't matter that they disavow and deny their acknowledgment or approval of it.

Fact of history and human nature.

Well said   :patriot:

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'The time is long overdue': Stonewall Jackson's great-great-grandsons call for statue of their Confederate ancestor to be taken down because it's an 'overt symbol of racism'


 



Are these all the descendants of Stonewall Jackson?  Do they speak for every other desc. of Jackson?   Love how the media manipulates people and facts.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

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The aforementioned "educators" and "entertainers" tunneled underneath and dug out our foundations while we ignored the rumblings below our feet and pretended it was nothing of consequence but earthworms.

Now they brought in the heavy earth-moving equipment, bulldozers and Wreckers because now that the foundations are chiseled away - flattening the entire structure is now easy and inevitable.

And the sad part is that we had those among us who were trying to wake us the hell up the entire time!
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This 10-year old podcast is worth revisiting as it explains a great deal about the rise of Nazi Socialism.  It will ring more than a few bells for anyone who's been looking around to see which way the wind blows.

http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-16-nazi-tidbits/

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I had a curious thought today.

After enough people die in months ahead do you think someone may actually crack open a history book?

Commies in our schools have been doing their best to revise or wipe out history from our schools for quite some time.  The younger generation today is woefully ignorant of this country's past.  Keeping people uneducated means they are easier to control.  In the meantime, the commies are going to force government run health care upon us, so they can systematically eliminate those older people who do know and appreciate the past and perhaps lived through it.  Can't have those people around to tell the younger generation anything different.

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I wonder if all of the hundreds of descendants of Jackson who might mourn or honor their ancestor will be able to weigh in as well or is this tyranny by a few?
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I wonder if all of the hundreds of descendants of Jackson who might mourn or honor their ancestor will be able to weigh in as well or is this tyranny by a few?

My guess is no one wants to ask them.