Virginia governor encourages removal of Confederate statues

[mystery-ak]

Virginia governor encourages removal of Confederate statues
By John Bowden - 08/16/17 09:19 PM EDT

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) on Wednesday urged local governing authorities around his state to remove Confederate statues following the violence in Charlottesville, Va.

"The recent events in Charlottesville demonstrate that monuments celebrating the leadership of the Confederacy have become flashpoints for hatred, division, and violence," McAuliffe said in a statement first reported by NBC News. "Monuments should serve as unifiers, to inspire us collectively and venerate our greatest citizens."

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[Hoodat]

Virginia governor has already started his 2020 Presidential run.

[RetBobbyMI]

I gues the Virginia governor wants to disavow that the war of Northern Agression ever took place. That ought to rile Virginians everywhere who lost their ancestors fighting against federal taxation of the southern agriculture vs Northern industry.

[Hoodat]

I gues the Virginia governor wants to disavow that the war of Northern Agression ever took place.

As a New Yorker, he would.

That ought to rile Virginians everywhere who lost their ancestors fighting against federal taxation of the southern agriculture vs Northern industry.

Unfortunately, the voting bloc that elected him are all from Maryland.

[Silver Pines]

As a New Yorker, he would.


Unfortunately, the voting bloc that elected him are all from Maryland.

@Hoodat

Right on both counts. As a born and raised Virginian, I'm not into refighting the Civil War or renaming it the war of northern aggression.  We have plenty of northern aggression going on right now---liberal Yankees who are flooding down here, crowding us out, and who've turned Virginia from red to blue.

McAuliffe makes me want to throw up when he says "my" state.  Virginia is nothing but a political stepping stone for him.  Just like Obama with his 180 on gay marriage, McAuliffe was hiding his time to pivot when he said the monuments didn't need to come down.

[RetBobbyMI]

@Hoodat

Right on both counts. As a born and raised Virginian, I'm not into refighting the Civil War or renaming it the war of northern aggression.  We have plenty of northern aggression going on right now---liberal Yankees who are flooding down here, crowding us out, and who've turned Virginia from red to blue.

McAuliffe makes me want to throw up when he says "my" state.  Virginia is nothing but a political stepping stone for him.  Just like Obama with his 180 on gay marriage, McAuliffe was hiding his time to pivot when he said the monuments didn't need to come down.

I'm in 100% agreement with you. From my maternal grandmother on back to the Jamestown settlement, my ancestors lived in Virginia and were part of the Civil War. I have ancestors on my fathers side as well as my maternal grandfathers side that fought against them in the Northern Army. Some even in the same battles, like Gettysburg and died on the same battlefield on the same day.

People that tear down memories or memorials to anything, have an axe to grind. And it usually has nothing to do with the memorials themselves. The people the express hate and discontent are no better than the far extreme they oppose. The nut jobs that tore down the memorial in Durham, NC supposedly were concerned about slavery and black oppression (according the the fake news), but how many black can anyone count in the footage?

All of this nuttiness, is political posturing and anarchy stirred up by the alt-left to claim the news headlines in an attempt to gain back the political power they think is solely theirs.

[TomSea]

Boo Hoo, Virginia, if they get a demographic shift, it should have happened over 100 years ago but their system like the rest of the South didn't even want to give all men voting rights. A lot of them fled and now, cities that are scowled at for being problematic, largely have those problems because of the immorality of that White Supremacist system of the South. Crocodile Tears.  The same for the rest of those states and they may well shift too.

[Silver Pines]

 @TomSea, honey, why don't you quit the passive-aggressive thing of responding to my posts in a general manner and just do so directly, using my name.  I promise I won't bite.

[Hoodat]

Boo Hoo, Virginia, if they get a demographic shift, it should have happened over 100 years ago but their system like the rest of the South didn't even want to give all men voting rights. A lot of them fled and now, cities that are scowled at for being problematic, largely have those problems because of the immorality of that White Supremacist system of the South. Crocodile Tears.  The same for the rest of those states and they may well shift too.

The white supremacist who killed the woman with his car is from Ohio.

[Silver Pines]

I'm in 100% agreement with you. From my maternal grandmother on back to the Jamestown settlement, my ancestors lived in Virginia and were part of the Civil War. I have ancestors on my fathers side as well as my maternal grandfathers side that fought against them in the Northern Army. Some even in the same battles, like Gettysburg and died on the same battlefield on the same day.

People that tear down memories or memorials to anything, have an axe to grind. And it usually has nothing to do with the memorials themselves. The people the express hate and discontent are no better than the far extreme they oppose. The nut jobs that tore down the memorial in Durham, NC supposedly were concerned about slavery and black oppression (according the the fake news), but how many black can anyone count in the footage?

All of this nuttiness, is political posturing and anarchy stirred up by the alt-left to claim the news headlines in an attempt to gain back the political power they think is solely theirs.

@RetBobbyMI

Yes, agreed.  I include the marchers for National Socialism via tiki torch in that group, as well.  They just made it easier for  Antifa and the rest to get what they want with virtually no resistance now.
And they won't stop with Confederate monuments.

I wonder what happened with the mob in Tennessee that was trying to dig up the body of Nathan Bedford Forrest.

[aligncare]

New York's Governor Cuomo recently ordered a review of all "controversial" state monuments. Mayor de Blasio doing the same in NYC. This is perfect, the 'rats will surely go down to defeat next election. Happens every time they overplay the race card.

[dfwgator]

New York's Governor Cuomo recently ordered a review of all "controversial" state monuments. Mayor de Blasio doing the same in NYC. This is perfect, the 'rats will surely go down to defeat next election. Happens every time they overplay the race card.

They "overplayed" Katrina, and it was a big factor in Obama getting elected.

[RetBobbyMI]

@RetBobbyMI

Yes, agreed.  I include the marchers for National Socialism via tiki torch in that group, as well.  They just made it easier for  Antifa and the rest to get what they want with virtually no resistance now.
And they won't stop with Confederate monuments.

I wonder what happened with the mob in Tennessee that was trying to dig up the body of Nathan Bedford Forrest.

If they keep stirring the hornets' nest, they might see those who have kept their memories quiet rise up again. And it might be more than just a showing of the Confederate flag.  The militias of the south might be a bit more than they really want to tangle with.

[aligncare]

They "overplayed" Katrina, and it was a big factor in Obama getting elected.

An exception. Obama was "historic." He could have shot someone on 5th ave...well, you know the rest.

The 'rats overplayed the race card in Reagan's '80 election. He won.

My point was the louder and crazier they get about race the more it hurts them among regular Americans at the ballot box.

[libertybele]

Gee ... this probably means that I should cancel my confederate flag order. 

[Smokin Joe]

I gues the Virginia governor wants to disavow that the war of Northern Agression ever took place. That ought to rile Virginians everywhere who lost their ancestors fighting against federal taxation of the southern agriculture vs Northern industry.

Any Virginian with roots that go that deep should (rightly) see the man as a traitor to the Commonwealth.

[Smokin Joe]

Boo Hoo, Virginia, if they get a demographic shift, it should have happened over 100 years ago but their system like the rest of the South didn't even want to give all men voting rights. A lot of them fled and now, cities that are scowled at for being problematic, largely have those problems because of the immorality of that White Supremacist system of the South. Crocodile Tears.  The same for the rest of those states and they may well shift too.

Just by your view of what race relations were like in the South on an individual basis, I can tell where you did not grow up. You have swallowed the Yankee stereotype hook, line, and sinker. I'd almost bet you got that out of a book published in Boston (where white northern hypocrites were burning buses seven years after our schools had been integrated so their kids wouldn't have to go to school with 'those people').

[Smokin Joe]

The white supremacist who killed the woman with his car is from Ohio.

Yes, and as has been pointed out to me recently, also the home of a Marxist prominent in the Union Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Willich

[dfwgator]

Just by your view of what race relations were like in the South on an individual basis, I can tell where you did not grow up. You have swallowed the Yankee stereotype hook, line, and sinker. I'd almost bet you got that out of a book published in Boston (where white northern hypocrites were burning buses seven years after our schools had been integrated so their kids wouldn't have to go to school with 'those people').

Now your northern bleep's a Negro
You see he's got his dignity
Down here we're too ignorant to realize
That the North has set the bleep free

Yes he's free to be put in a cage
In Harlem in New York City
And he's free to be put in a cage on the South-Side of Chicago
And the West-Side
And he's free to be put in a cage in Hough in Cleveland
And he's free to be put in a cage in East St. Louis
And he's free to be put in a cage in Fillmore in San Francisco
And he's free to be put in a cage in Roxbury in Boston

They're gatherin' 'em up from miles around
Keepin' the bleep down


-Randy Newman  "Rednecks"

[Right_in_Virginia]

They "overplayed" Katrina, and it was a big factor in Obama getting elected.

I doubt Katrina had a thing to do with Obama's victory.  White guilt was the big factor in Obama getting elected.

[Suppressed]

New York's Governor Cuomo recently ordered a review of all "controversial" state monuments. Mayor de Blasio doing the same in NYC. This is perfect, the 'rats will surely go down to defeat next election. Happens every time they overplay the race card.

Is there a comment period, where I can express my dissatisfaction with some of these "monuments" out there?

[aligncare]

Story in the news this morning reporting that a man in Manhattan was throwing rocks at someone's apartment window that had a confederate, Israeli and American flag displayed. Those flags have been displayed there for over a year at least. Police set up barricades below the window to discourage further hateful behaviors.

So, I wonder which side is really the one responsible for ginning up hate?

I know the correct answer.

[RetBobbyMI]

Any Virginian with roots that go that deep should (rightly) see the man as a traitor to the Commonwealth.

The current Governor IS a traitor to the Commonwealth.

[Silver Pines]

Any Virginian with roots that go that deep should (rightly) see the man as a traitor to the Commonwealth.

@Smokin Joe

He was never a part of my state to begin with.  I can't see him as a traitor because I know he never had any loyalty to it. 

[endicom]

Yes, and as has been pointed out to me recently, also the home of a Marxist prominent in the Union Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Willich

Wiki says that Willich wanted to kill Marx for being too conservative.