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The battle of Charlottesville: At least two seriously hurt in clashes between white nationalists and counter-protesters at massive march in Virginia as governor warns public to 'stay away'

    Thousands were expected to attend the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia on Saturday
    At least two were seriously hurt in the heated clashes, Virginia State police reported
    First Lady Melania Trump admonished the day's events, tweeting: 'Our country encourages freedom of speech, but let's communicate w/o hate in our hearts. No good comes from violence'
    The rally was being held at Emancipation Park and hundreds were seen stomping through the city
    Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer denounced the 'cowardly parade of hatred, bigotry, racism, and intolerance march down the lawns of the architect of our Bill of Rights'
    A local state of emergency was declared around 11am and the rally was determined an unlawful assembly
    Alt right leader Jason Kessler led a torch lit march through the University of Virginia campus on Friday
    Hundreds of white nationalists joined him in the march which ended at the statue of Thomas Jefferson
    The alt-right activists were heard chanting 'Jews will not replace us' and 'white lives matter'
    They clashed with University of Virginia students who held an anti-racist protest on the grounds
    Director of the Center on Extremism said Saturday's event could 'be a potentially historic showcase of hate'


By Cheyenne Roundtree and Hannah Parry For Dailymail.com

Published: 01:43 EDT, 12 August 2017 | Updated: 13:17 EDT, 12 August 2017


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4783914/White-nationalists-hold-torch-lit-march-UVA-campus.html#ixzz4pYxCfMO9
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Surprised this hasn't been reported on today; hot story in the news.

Related: https://www.voanews.com/a/us-southern-secessionists/3982929.html
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No wonder mulanya chose to comment about 'free speech'.    It's the alt-right being excoriated for their so called 'free speech.  She's there to offer the same type of support bannion gave to jeff lord.
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One of those clashes where you hope both sides lose.  What is concerning though is our history is systematically being erased from the south to placate BLM.  Unfortunately when the KKK and white nationalists are the ones standing up for these monuments, its hard for anyone else to see the cause as very sympathetic.

I'm afraid our attempt to educate our children with the true history of our country, both good and bad, is becoming much harder with the sanitization by some of the snowflakes and vilification by the others of prominent events and figures in our history.
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One of those clashes where you hope both sides lose.  What is concerning though is our history is systematically being erased from the south to placate BLM.  Unfortunately when the KKK and white nationalists are the ones standing up for these monuments, its hard for anyone else to see the cause as very sympathetic.

I'm afraid our attempt to educate our children with the true history of our country, both good and bad, is becoming much harder with the sanitization by some of the snowflakes and vilification by the others of prominent events and figures in our history.
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 We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!

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Surprised this hasn't been reported on today; hot story in the news.



Garbage v. Garbage.

Too bad they can't totally eliminate each other, and make the world a nicer place.
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One of those clashes where you hope both sides lose.  What is concerning though is our history is systematically being erased from the south to placate BLM.  Unfortunately when the KKK and white nationalists are the ones standing up for these monuments, its hard for anyone else to see the cause as very sympathetic.

I'm afraid our attempt to educate our children with the true history of our country, both good and bad, is becoming much harder with the sanitization by some of the snowflakes and vilification by the others of prominent events and figures in our history.

Well put.  There are many of us southern preservationist who absolutely shudder that these pukes think they are speaking for us.

Like I said in an earlier post, it would suit me fine if all the KKK, and the BLM turds simultaneously evaporated off the earth at once.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.


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Drudge is reporting on this so I decided to post; latest is:


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Aug 12, 1:52 PM EDT
Vehicle plows into a group of counter-protesters at a white nationalist rally in Virginia; injuries unknown
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-08-12-13-52-16

I don't mind the Confederate flag; but when it is hijacked for other purposes or if the Swastika is also flying, I'm not going to go near that group.


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Idiots all around.  Just put them all in a cage and let them beat each other to death.

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Skokie case decided in favor of KKK's free speech rights, by the US Supreme Court.

The KKK was historically affiliated with the democrat party, was obviously racist and anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc.

It is a scurrilous smear, to falsely associate them with this President, or with Republicans now, or ever. It is, ironically, what democrats do. 
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Skokie case decided in favor of KKK's free speech rights, by the US Supreme Court.

The KKK was historically affiliated with the democrat party, was obviously racist and anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, etc.

It is a scurrilous smear, to falsely associate them with this President, or with Republicans now, or ever. It is, ironically, what democrats do.

Still trying to erase how Nixon ran his very successful 'Southern strategy' to peel those KKK members and other like-minded voters away.  It was the perfect opportunity, too... what with the Democrats having just passed the civil rights legislation.

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One of the organizers of the march was a black man, a mod at "/r/The_Donald", according to "The_Donald" at Reddit. True or not I don't know.

Bizarre.
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And of course the media presence is only serving to ratchet things up even more.  That's what they want.

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Still trying to erase how Nixon ran his very successful 'Southern strategy' to peel those KKK members and other like-minded voters away.  It was the perfect opportunity, too... what with the Democrats having just passed the civil rights legislation.
There was no "southern strategy." That's a canard foisted by libs to slander Nixon.  The fact was Southern whites, like many conservative Americans, were turned off by the McGovern campaign that was the most pro-socialist/leftist campaign to that point. I was a Democrat then, and I didn't vote for McGovern because of the leftists and kooks I saw at the Dem national convention.
To get those voters all Nixon had to do was appeal to patriotism and define the McGovern campaign as leftist....which it was.

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Well, the media has gotten what they wanted.  They could have just ignored these pukes and let them have their little rally with nobody caring.  But noooooo, they wanted blood.....well, they got it.

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There was no "southern strategy." That's a canard foisted by libs to slander Nixon.  The fact was Southern whites, like many conservative Americans, were turned off by the McGovern campaign that was the most pro-socialist/leftist campaign to that point. I was a Democrat then, and I didn't vote for McGovern because of the leftists and kooks I saw at the Dem national convention.
To get those voters all Nixon had to do was appeal to patriotism and define the McGovern campaign as leftist....which it was.

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

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Drudge is reporting on this so I decided to post; latest is:


I don't mind the Confederate flag; but when it is hijacked for other purposes or if the Swastika is also flying, I'm not going to go near that group.
Many of those white nationalists thought they had a natural ally in Trump. I'm not a huge fan of  Trump, but I knew he would not ally with those nuts.  If they thought Trump would have an interest with allying with a hate group, they were going to be severely disappointed.

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Someone in the comments section stated that the "white nationalist" side only had about 200 persons... so maybe this is not even newsworthy but the media reports it and Drudge went red on his banner headline.  It is all pretty pathetic.
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