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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2017, 12:57:00 am »
Heh.  Anywho, stupid people remember threats of going to war with a country that as far as they know is a country is Europe.  Just doesn't seem like something you randomly throw out there.

Hey...Sometimes you have to call the bastards out. 

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2017, 12:57:47 am »
ping

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2017, 12:58:01 am »
And that gives him reason to threaten to send our military to Venezuela because?
Monroe Doctrine, look it up sometime.

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2017, 01:01:47 am »
   Hey, the jury's still out on his glorious diplomatic skills with North Korea, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here, but to throw in Venezuela at this juncture, unnecessarily, well, I'm starting to get worried.
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2017, 01:01:51 am »
ping

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2017, 01:02:37 am »
A negotiator knows to never take any option off of the table.

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2017, 01:07:20 am »
I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here

LOL

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2017, 01:08:52 am »
Monroe Doctrine, look it up sometime.

There's no European colonialism happening.  You probably mean the Roosevelt Corollary or Clark Memorandum.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2017, 01:09:52 am »
You Busted Me! @jpsb
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2017, 01:11:04 am »
You will be long dead before the 1st bomb is drop.  So why are you worried?
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My post on this thread was not to you, so why are you talking to me AGAIN and would prefer me dead?
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2017, 01:14:10 am »
Dear.  Wrong site. TBR doesn't do  "pings" ...please visit www.freedrepublic.com
@Wingnut

I ping on here anytime I want.  You really want a fight with me. Have a talk with @mystery-ak and maybe she will throw me off here, just for you.

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2017, 01:14:56 am »
@Wingnut
@mystery-ak, I am in good health and plan to run for Miss America when I am 100.

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2017, 01:16:01 am »
@Wingnut

Yesterday, you called me a bad name and said,
"Don't talk to me again."  As you see below, Mod2 took the bad name off.
"Last Edit: August 10, 2017, 02:02:42 PM by Mod2"

My post on this thread was not to you, so why are you talking to me AGAIN and would prefer me dead?
I am not going to fight with you, it is below my standard of communication to do that.

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I hope I'm alive to see it..lol
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2017, 01:18:40 am »
@Wingnut

I ping on here anytime I want.  You really want a fight with me. Have a talk with @mystery-ak and maybe she will throw me off here, just for you.

LOL...you know that won't happen....

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2017, 01:50:20 am »
Friday night is all right for fighting.  I see you have your Trump Hate Chubbie on.  Lets rock.

Has little to do with Trump's small hands versus my big feet, and more to do with logistical realities of the readiness of our military to engage in new multiple theaters of war.

The drawing down of our military to modern historic lows is due Obama and Congress, not Trump.

However, committing our forces to a potentially major conflict in Korea and at the same time threatening force in Venezuela is more than a bit idiotic.

'Hate chubby' enough for ya?  Or is singing the Anthem of Trump Praise more important?
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2017, 01:53:01 am »
Has little to do with Trump's small hands versus my big feet, and more to do with logistical realities of the readiness of our military to engage in new multiple theaters of war.

The drawing down of our military to modern historic lows is due Obama and Congress, not Trump.

However, committing our forces to a potentially major conflict in Korea and at the same time threatening force in Venezuela is more than a bit idiotic.

'Hate chubby' enough for ya?  Or is singing the Anthem of Trump Praise more important?

I think you grossly underestimate our capabilities.  FWIW.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2017, 01:58:03 am »
I think you grossly underestimate our capabilities.  FWIW.

Oh really?

Why is Trump talking about yanking us out of A'stan if our 'capabilities' are so invincible?

You don't think we are spread a bit thin with war materiel, men and ships at strength-levels less than what they were before WWII?

Or is Twittering loudly while carrying a pool noodle the new defense policy of this administration?
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2017, 02:05:18 am »
Oh really?

Why is Trump talking about yanking us out of A'stan.....

Only about 10k personnel there, with no clear purpose.  Why bother?
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2017, 02:13:18 am »
Monroe Doctrine, look it up sometime.

I'm very familiar with the Monroe Doctrine and the Roosevelt Corollary.

Perhaps you missed the shift in foreign policy about 4 years ago when the SecState said that doctrine was no more.

Has the new SecState said we are going to stand by that doctrine once again?

Maybe you should look that up sometime.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2017, 02:13:23 am »
Pentagon: We've received no new orders on Venezuela after Trump remarks

 By Brandon Carter - 08/11/17 08:51 PM EDT
 

The Department of Defense is pushing back on President Trump’s assertion that he is refusing to rule out a U.S. military intervention in Venezuela.

“The Pentagon has not received any orders with regards to Venezuela," Pentagon spokesman Eric Pahon said, according to CNN. "The military conducts contingency planning for a variety of situations. If called upon, we are prepared to support ... government efforts to protect our national interests and safeguard US citizens.”

“Any insinuations by the Maduro regime that we are planning an invasion are baseless and are designed to distract from his continued efforts to undermine the democratic process and institutions in Venezuela."

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http://thehill.com/policy/international/346278-pentagon-weve-received-no-new-orders-on-venezuela-after-trump-remarks
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2017, 02:16:34 am »
I think you grossly underestimate our capabilities.  FWIW.

We don't have the capabilities right now to get involved in Venezuela.  Not with he Norks saber rattling.

We have to rotate entire brigades into Europe right now...I think you vastly OVER estimate what we have on tap right now in the way of military resources.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2017, 02:23:18 am »
@Wingnut

Yesterday, you called me a bad name and said,
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My post on this thread was not to you, so why are you talking to me AGAIN and would prefer me dead?
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2017, 02:33:43 am »
Hopefully the Marines won't still have all their planes grounded before big shot gets us more involved.  I really think it's all bluster, but the problem with bluster is that eventually someone triple dog dares you and the next thing you know you're frozen to a flag pole.  Well, y'all know what I mean.

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2017, 02:35:31 am »
There's probably some contingency drawn up similar to Operation Restore Hope in Somalia.  It'll probably be just as ineffective.
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