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Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’
By Nina Burleigh On 8/11/17 at 12:32 PM

As President Donald Trump escalates his war of words against North Korea and its leader, Kim Jong Un, a team of independent rocket experts has asserted that the two rockets the rogue regime launched in July and described as intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) are incapable of delivering a nuclear payload to the continental United States, and probably not even to Anchorage, Alaska.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology rocket expert Ted Postol and two German experts, Markus Schiller and Robert Schmucker of Schmucker Technologie, published their findings Friday in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, in a paper they titled “North Korea’s ‘Not Quite’ ICBM Can’t Hit the Lower 48 States.” Newsweek saw an early version of the paper.

Continued: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-north-korea-missiles-nuclear-scientists-649702

No room for error, yes, this is in my opinion, a leftist-biased article. It doesn't affect things too much. We don't want them to have these weapons or technology.

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Re: Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 10:47:34 pm »
There's no dickering with Schmucker.

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Re: Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 10:55:50 pm »
Riiiiiiight.

North Korea's ICBM's are a "hoax".

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"There are no North Korean Missiles, it's all a hoax made up by Trump the warmonger".

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Re: Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 11:21:48 pm »
If one looks at the history of military rocket technology and how far technology has come, I wouldn't assume, even if they didn't have the support we know they did, that they wouldn't have dangerous technology. German V2 rockets from 70 years ago were guided with little more than a gyroscope, simple clockwork, and basic calculus. I know something that reaches the homeland would be a lot more than that, but Hawaii, Guam, or any of our allies in the area could easily be targeted with 70 year old technology, most of which is public domain information.

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Re: Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 11:27:40 pm »
So South Korea and Japan watched the thing go up and down.   they didn't actually see it?
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Re: Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 11:53:09 pm »
If one looks at the history of military rocket technology and how far technology has come, I wouldn't assume, even if they didn't have the support we know they did, that they wouldn't have dangerous technology. German V2 rockets from 70 years ago were guided with little more than a gyroscope, simple clockwork, and basic calculus. I know something that reaches the homeland would be a lot more than that, but Hawaii, Guam, or any of our allies in the area could easily be targeted with 70 year old technology, most of which is public domain information.

Let's say they used similar guidance.  The V-2 had a CEP of 2-4km with a range of 200 mi.  The accuracy would be even worse with increasing distance.  Since lack of accuracy would need a larger warhead to compensate, you'd necessarily lose range with the larger payload.  The Norks can manufacture a crude nuclear device with low yields.  They can't put that device on a missile with any appreciable range and accuracy to threaten US territory.  South Korea and Japan are the places under real threat.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.