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Re: Trump warns N. Korea it will face 'fire and fury'
« Reply #100 on: August 09, 2017, 04:37:26 am »
If you're going to place your faith in Stratfor, you may actually want to read what they said....

The North Korean military's most powerful tool is artillery. It cannot level Seoul as some reports have claimed, but it could do significant damage. Pyongyang risks deteriorating its forces by exposing them to return fire, however, which significantly restricts their use. Less conventional methods of retaliation, such as sabotage or cyber warfare, are less risky but also limit the shock that North Korea would desire.

After a strike, North Korea's most immediate and expected method of retaliation would center around conventional artillery. Many of the North's indirect fire systems are already located on or near the border with South Korea. By virtue of proximity and simplicity, these systems have a lower preparatory and response times than air assets, larger ballistic missiles or naval assets. Nevertheless, there are several critical limitations to their effectiveness.

Tube and Rocket Artillery

The biggest anticipated cost of a North Korean artillery barrage in response to an attack would be the at least partial destruction of Seoul. But the volume of fire that the North can direct against the South Korean capital is limited by some important factors. Of the vast artillery force deployed by the North along the border, only a small portion — Koksan 170-mm self-propelled guns, as well as 240-mm and 300-mm multiple launch rocket systems — are capable of actually reaching Seoul. Broadly speaking, the bulk of Pyongyang's artillery can reach only into the northern border area of South Korea or the northern outskirts of Seoul.

All forms of North Korean artillery have problems with volume and effectiveness of fire, but those issues are often more pronounced for the longer-range systems. Problems include the high malfunction rate of indigenous ammunition, poorly trained artillery crews, and a reluctance to expend critical artillery assets by exposing their positions.

Yes, but the North Korean Army will probably will follow orders with a penalty of death. The North Korean Army and people have been brainwashed since 1953 that the U.S. is the "enemy" and destroy us at all costs. I do not want to be the field commander who goes against the "Supreme Leader" orders. That commander disobeying an order would be on the receiving end of a firing squad.
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Re: Trump warns N. Korea it will face 'fire and fury'
« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2017, 04:46:06 am »
Yes, but the North Korean Army will probably will follow orders with a penalty of death. The North Korean Army and people have been brainwashed since 1953 that the U.S. is the "enemy" and destroy them at all costs. I do not want to be the field commander who goes against the "Supreme Leader". That commander would be on the receiving end of a firing squad.

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Re: Trump warns N. Korea it will face 'fire and fury'
« Reply #102 on: August 09, 2017, 04:49:54 am »
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You know how crazy Kim Jung Il is. He has killed most of his own family and members of the armed forces. He was even brazen enough to have North Korean agents wipe nerve agent on his brother's face in the middle of an airport killing him on the spot.He has has people killed by anti aircraft guns. Would you go against an order from Kim Jung Il to attack?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10272953/Kim-Jong-uns-ex-lover-executed-by-firing-squad.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kim-jong-nam-murder-video-shows-moment-kim-jong-un-n723236
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/02/10/north-korea-executions/80173970/
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP10.HTM
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Re: Trump warns N. Korea it will face 'fire and fury'
« Reply #103 on: August 09, 2017, 04:57:17 am »
You know how crazy Kim Il Jung is. He has killed most of his own family and members of the armed forces. He was even brazen enough to wipe nerve agent on his brother's face in the middle of an airport. Would you go against an order from Kim Il Jung to attack?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10272953/Kim-Jong-uns-ex-lover-executed-by-firing-squad.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kim-jong-nam-murder-video-shows-moment-kim-jong-un-n723236
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/02/10/north-korea-executions/80173970/
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP10.HTM

That's what scares me more about NK than how many artillery pieces they have. They're crazy, they have several enablers, and they've had a whole lot of time to cook up who knows what.
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Re: Trump warns N. Korea it will face 'fire and fury'
« Reply #104 on: August 09, 2017, 04:59:55 am »
That's what scares me more about NK than how many artillery pieces they have. They're crazy, they have several enablers, and they've had a whole lot of time to cook up who knows what.

I agree. Kim Jung Il is absolutely nuts. Kim would use his weapons against South Korea in a heartbeat if he could get away with it. Kim wants a Korean Peninsula entirely under communist rule. This is why the world(including China) needs to tighten the noose around his country and regime. Every move he makes keep on slapping him with sanctions.
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Re: Trump warns N. Korea it will face 'fire and fury'
« Reply #105 on: August 09, 2017, 05:24:15 am »
 :amen:
That's what scares me more about NK than how many artillery pieces they have. They're crazy, they have several enablers, and they've had a whole lot of time to cook up who knows what.

You also need to remember, that Kim is starving his own people while his million man army is very well fed. North Korea is literally in the dark if you look at the satellite picture. The only splatter of light is Pyongyang where the Party bosses reside.



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