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The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 09:25:58 AM »
True words.

I worked Exploration as an engineer for a number of years supporting a team of Geoscientists on a world-wide basis.  They are almost all now retired or pushed out by the wave of unconventional developers.

It will be difficult to cultivate the depth of understanding that an Exploration Geo has in the future.

The shock will come when the next generation is forced to rely upon Explorationists sourced from international venues for the expertise to conduct true exploration in this country.
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 10:48:30 AM »
@Smokin Joe

Surprised you have not commented on this topic, as I suspect you might be one of the crew change going out in short order.

In fact, I haven't seen any postings by you in awhile.
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 01:38:38 PM »
@Smokin Joe

Surprised you have not commented on this topic, as I suspect you might be one of the crew change going out in short order.

In fact, I haven't seen any postings by you in awhile.
Sorry. I have been on the road and off line for a little while. I'll give the article a look.
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 01:54:50 PM »
@Smokin Joe

Surprised you have not commented on this topic, as I suspect you might be one of the crew change going out in short order.

In fact, I haven't seen any postings by you in awhile.
It has been far too long since I worked a vertical well looking for something new. That was my favorite part. I told the 'guys in Denver' for an oil company I was working for, "You have what two other companies are looking for, in this well" at the edge of what was to become the Elm Coulee Field, and maybe worked one vertical well since. That was the part I loved, finding oil. I have a few good years left, but with the emphasis on development have my doubts I will be able to find something like that again. (That well was an in field discovery in another formation as well).
The hardest part is that for those of us who worked in the field under guys in offices far, far away, is that those guys have retired, and the new folks moving in either don't know you or what you have done, or don't care about that because they are intent on developing what is on the table now. The company I found oil for back when was sold to a bigger outfit, and that company subsequently bought by a major, whose office people had an entirely different attitude toward contractor field personnel once the surviving original personnel had been retired.
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 01:58:28 PM »
While I was finishing college, I worked as assistant to two fellows, a reservoir engineer, and a geologist, both master degrees, on secondary recovery projects.

from this article, this stood out to me:

"Great explorationists share a few common qualities and traits: they're not afraid of hard work, they pay attention to (but don't get lost in) the details, they love what they do, and they persist until they drive everyone around them nuts. And, perhaps most importantly, they have learned what maps matter...."

Among the experiences, which led me to become "results oriented, and common sense."


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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 02:11:55 PM »
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 04:31:59 PM »
Keen observation.

I was waiting for @Smokin Joe to comment a couple of sentences prior to that
The trick is knowing which details matter, and why. I have seen people go off on tangents about this or that, but the bottom line is the question of whether or not there is oil there, in economically recoverable quantities, and then, how extensive the reservoir is.

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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2017, 04:57:59 PM »
The trick is knowing which details matter, and why. I have seen people go off on tangents about this or that, but the bottom line is the question of whether or not there is oil there, in economically recoverable quantities, and then, how extensive the reservoir is.
I'll add my statistician bent and say "question of whether or not likelhood there is oil there".
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2017, 05:24:14 PM »
I'll add my statistician bent and say "question of whether or not likelhood there is oil there".
You may, but I'm a field guy. I'm a veteran of 224 wellsites, and when you are looking at the rock, it is there or it isn't (except the Interlake, which is tougher to evaluate. If you got a gas show on a closed structure that hasn't been tested, test it--it's the only way to know.

The hard part is in overcoming prejudices about which formations will or won't produce (Why the Lodgepole was almost missed).
I had one company tell me their computer told them we were not looking at oil because it wasn't there (according to the computer). This was an exploration division well, and they were so sure their computer was right we drilled for another 30 days to the zone the computer told them had oil. It didn't. They plugged back to the one we had found, got the strap wrong, and straddle tested the wrong zone, which fed the "I told you so" we got from the office. The zone was never tested, now being behind a plug.
Another (production division of the same company), tested a show in a zone which was 'not supposed to be present', and made a well.  The anticipated target wasn't developed. Carbonates are less predictable as a rule, and the oil is where you find it.
One more: a small independent company had processed their seismic and come up with a group of structural highs which, as it turned out were not. When they said they were going to find out why those highs showed and correct it, I reminded them that high or not, every well drilled which had shown as a 'high' was a producer, whether it was structurally high or not (and most were not) when we drilled it. Maybe changing that wasn't such a good idea; after all, this was working. (If it ain't broke, don't fix it.)
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2017, 06:15:59 PM »
The trick is knowing which details matter, and why. I have seen people go off on tangents about this or that, but the bottom line is the question of whether or not there is oil there, in economically recoverable quantities, and then, how extensive the reservoir is.

Followed closely by "can we economicly get at it?"
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Re: The Shale Revolution and the Great Crew Change
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 03:09:37 PM »

One more: a small independent company had processed their seismic and come up with a group of structural highs which, as it turned out were not. When they said they were going to find out why those highs showed and correct it, I reminded them that high or not, every well drilled which had shown as a 'high' was a producer, whether it was structurally high or not (and most were not) when we drilled it. Maybe changing that wasn't such a good idea; after all, this was working. (If it ain't broke, don't fix it.)
For some strange reason, the company I worked for decided to train some of its engineers in geophysics, so I was one for a few months.

During the month I spent as a processor, I was able to build structural highs that looked convincing.

Ever since, call me a skeptic.
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