Trump to Mexican president: Stop saying your government won't pay for wall

[corbe]

Trump to Mexican president: Stop saying your government won't pay for wall

 By Mallory Shelbourne  - 08/03/17 09:34 AM EDT  


President Trump pleaded that Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto stop stating that his country would not pay for a wall on the border in their first telephone discussion, according to a transcript of the Jan. 27 call obtained by The Washington Post.

"You cannot say that to the press,” Trump told Nieto, urging him to refrain from the public statements because of the political damage it would impose on Trump.

“If you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that,” Trump told Nieto, according to the transcript obtained by the Post.

In a line likely to surprise some Trump supporters, the president described the wall as "the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important."
The conversation is one of several Trump held with foreign leaders as he took office.

Details of the calls have been made public, but this is the first time entire transcripts have leaked out.

The remarks about the wall are particularly notable because they suggest that Trump had doubts about whether Mexico would  be willing to pay for it.

Trump's declaration that he would build a wall on the southern border and that Mexico would pay for it was a central theme of his presidential campaign. At rallies around the country, audiences would answer with "build the wall" as Trump asked, "What are we going to do?"

Trump would then ask, "And who's going to pay for it?"

"Mexico," crowds would repeatedly respond.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345117-trump-asked-mexican-president-to-stop-publicly-saying-his-government

[Cripplecreek]

Well the wall wasn't all that important to him. He just needed to keep talking about it to bring the rubes into the tent.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Well the wall wasn't all that important to him. He just needed to keep talking about it to bring the rubes into the tent.

Yep.

[ABX]

So much for Reince being the leaker. The leaks are still coming after he is out. And bigger....

The Washington Post has obtained transcripts of two conversations President Trump had with foreign leaders: one with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and another with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

The transcripts were prepared by the White House but have not been released....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.3261b51e8886

[RoosGirl]

@Cripplecreek Nevermind

[Cripplecreek]

The growing desperation runs deep among his defenders.



Trump is an honest liar?

[Cripplecreek]

‘This deal will make me look terrible’: Full transcripts of Trump’s calls with Mexico and Australia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.4d03ae115955

[txradioguy]

From the Transcripts:

One big takeaway is that Trump seems to acknowledge exactly what his pledge to make Mexico pay for the border wall was — a hollow promise meant to rile up the base.

At one point in his call with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, Trump even acknowledges that the wall is “the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.”


Trump spent much of his call with Pena Nieto just trying to convince him to stop talking about how Mexico would not pay for the wall. Trump even suggested he would fudge it in the end so that both sides could claim they didn't give in.

“We should both say, ‘We will work it out.’ It will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said. “As opposed to you saying, ‘We will not pay,’ and me saying, ‘We will not pay.’ ”

[skeeter]

This was one of Trump's more juvenile campaign promises. The most I hoped for from him was he'd resist getting on board DC's 'comprehensive immigration reform' bandwagon.

As it is I've been pretty happy with his policies regarding the border. Definite improvements over the past half dozen administrations.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Conservatives are a joke. How many so many of them latched themselves to this charlatan and threw away their morals for this guy.

Now I can throw Trump in their faces for the rest of eternity.

[Cripplecreek]

@Cripplecreek Nevermind

Some days you just wanna beat your head against the wall don't cha?

[Cripplecreek]

Conservatives are a joke. How many so many of them latched themselves to this charlatan and threw away their morals for this guy.

Now I can throw Trump in their faces for the rest of eternity.

Constitutional originalist / federalist conservatives have held firm. Trump simply enabled and gave voice to the progressive right.

[txradioguy]

The growing desperation runs deep among his defenders.



Trump is an honest liar?

@Cripplecreek is that akin to "Fake but accurate"?

[txradioguy]

Constitutional originalist / federalist conservatives have held firm. Trump simply enabled and gave voice to the progressive right.

Exactly.

[RoosGirl]

Some days you just wanna beat your head against the wall don't cha?

Most days!

[driftdiver]

Conservatives are a joke. How many so many of them latched themselves to this charlatan and threw away their morals for this guy.

Now I can throw Trump in their faces for the rest of eternity.

The only joke is the holier then thou perfectionist who thinks they know everything.  Sheeit you guys missed your calling as a fortune teller

The rest of us do the best we can with what's available.

[Cripplecreek]

Exactly.

Too many Americans have fallen for the lie that progressivism = leftism. The reality is that progressivism is not an end result, its only a means. The goals of left and right may be very different but those who use progressivism to achieve them believe nothing should stand in their way and the constitution is the biggest obstacle of both.

Just look at Teddy Roosevelt's progressive party platform. He clearly intended it as a means of seizing power for good. He supported income taxes, he supported direct election of senators, he supported national health care and he's some kind of conservative icon for some reason I don't understand.

[ABX]

So, "the wall just got 50 feet higher" was a lie too?
What's a person suppised to believe? Can we get a tell up front when a lie is about to be told? For Obama, it started out when he says: "let me be clear". What's Trump's tell that he is lying? So far, the only one I can find is if he is speaking or tweeting.

[RoosGirl]

The only joke is the holier then thou perfectionist who thinks they know everything.  Sheeit you guys missed your calling as a fortune teller

The rest of us do the best we can with what's available.

Discernment is not a complicated or mystical trait.  But it does require one open their eyes and ears and put aside their willful ignorance.

[driftdiver]

Discernment is not a complicated or mystical trait.  But it does require one open their eyes and ears and put aside their willful ignorance.

Yes oh masterful wise one.  You are prescient in the ways of the world and an example of perfection.  If only the politicians could be as perfect.

[RoosGirl]

Yes oh masterful wise one.  You are prescient in the ways of the world and an example of perfection.  If only the politicians could be as perfect.

You are the only one using the word "perfect".

[driftdiver]

You are the only one using the word "perfect".

Oh there are many words that hold the same meaning.  But how dare I presume to tell that to one of the holy ones who have had so much iinfluence on elections and been so imminently successful pushing thru their perfect agenda.

[EC]

Yes oh masterful wise one.  You are prescient in the ways of the world and an example of perfection.  If only the politicians could be as perfect.

It'd be an improvement. A large improvement.

[RoosGirl]

Oh there are many words that hold the same meaning.  But how dare I presume to tell that to one of the holy ones who have had so much iinfluence on elections and been so imminently successful pushing thru their perfect agenda.

I'm glad your opinion of me has improved so much.  This is a long way from accusing me of adultery like you have in the past. :)

[ABX]

Most people just want reasonable. We aren't even getting that. No one said they expect perfect. Hell, at least coming out a bit to the right of Jeb! would be an improvement at this point.