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Offline Night Hides Not

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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2017, 05:58:17 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 30, 2017, 05:52:47 pm
No, 5-7 Senators did that. Period. If conservatives want better results, they must be careful to focus on reality, not just run their mouths with inane rhetoric.

There are 52 GOP Senators, and 45 did what you wanted and expected.

This thread is proof of my position, that some (many?) conservatives are math and logic challenged.

Focusing on "reality" took us to where we're at today. Those 5-7 were out front in their reelection campaigns, boasting how they "fought" the excesses of Obamacare. When the opportunity arose to repeal it, they broke their pledge...that's the "reality" as I see it.

One molecule of fecal matter is enough to contaminate the liquid in a punchbowl...that's reality, too.
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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2017, 05:58:32 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 30, 2017, 05:52:47 pm
No, 5-7 Senators did that. Period. If conservatives want better results, they must be careful to focus on reality, not just run their mouths with inane rhetoric.

There are 52 GOP Senators, and 45 did what you wanted and expected.

This thread is proof of my position, that some (many?) conservatives are math and logic challenged.

So how will you justify their failure to even abide by their own rules at their most recent convention?   A party that will not abide by it's own rules and let the chips fall whereever the fall is pretty damned useless it seems to me!
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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2017, 06:04:33 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 30, 2017, 05:58:32 pm
So how will you justify their failure to even abide by their own rules at their most recent convention?   A party that will not abide by it's own rules and let the chips fall whereever the fall is pretty damned useless it seems to me!

That needed repeating in BOLD.
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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2017, 06:44:37 pm »
It's like a broken record in here —it's a binary choice! No! if you continue voting strategically for the lesser evil you only succeed in feeding the feckless GOP, those alligators in the swamp. Taste great/less filling.

The argument is so tiresome with no foreseeable resolution. Except to accept that people of good faith differ. Binar vision.
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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2017, 06:56:31 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 30, 2017, 06:44:37 pm
Except to accept that people of good faith differ.

Aren't we horrible at taking our own advice sometimes?  You may remember what you've written when some of don't agree with the "glorious" administration.
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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2017, 07:02:17 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 30, 2017, 06:44:37 pm
The argument is so tiresome with no foreseeable resolution. Except to accept that people of good faith differ. Binar vision.
There are states where you have the option either to a write-in candidate or to vote "none of the above/none of these
candidates." And I'm pretty sure a lot of voters other than me exercised whichever option they had. I had "none of
these candidates" as the option in my state and I exercised it without regret or remorse. When presented nothing
but a choice between two arsonists to fight the fire consuming the national house, and with third-party candidates
who had nothing substantial to offer, I could not cast any other vote without wanting to throw up.

People of good faith can and do differ. If only there were more who gave that more than lip (or keyboard)
service.
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Re: I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2017, 07:29:02 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on July 30, 2017, 05:33:26 pm
Seven GOP senators lied, forty-five voted to repeal. Zero Democrats in the Senate voted to repeal. While I did not look into the details the GOP House passed a repeal bill.

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I read something the other day that was the simple truth: Democrats are the progressives who take office and ruthlessly enact their agenda.  Republicans are the progressives who placehold for the Democrats until they can retake power.

https://news.vice.com/story/powerful-republicans-oppose-trumps-trans-military-ban

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