Author Topic: Ex-Cruz aide: Trump presidency 'is effectively over' (Read 7855 times)

corbe · « **on:** July 28, 2017, 01:53:02 pm »

Ex-Cruz aide: Trump presidency 'is effectively over'

By Joe Concha - 07/28/17 08:16 AM EDT

Sen. Ted Cruz's former communications director Rick Tyler declared the presidency of Donald Trump "is effectively over" on MSNBC on Friday.

"I think this presidency is effectively over," Tyler told "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski.

"And if you look back to different presidencies, you look at Bill Clinton. He had a rough first two years, very difficult two years. But after Oklahoma City he was able to regain his footing and become presidential until he slipped on a blue dress," Tyler continued.

"But this President cannot change. Nothing about his behavior tells me, since the beginning of this process, that he was going to change. And if you cannot change and you cannot become presidential, and you cannot convince the majority of the American people to enact some legislative agenda that he wants passed, his presidency legislatively is effectively over," he concluded.

Tyler was fired from Cruz's presidential campaign in February 2016 after circulating a fake story about Sen. Marco Rubio, also a presidential candidate. He was hired shortly thereafter by MSNBC as a contributor.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/media/344281-ex-cruz-campaign-manager-trump-presidency-is-effectively-over

Polly Ticks · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2017, 01:58:28 pm »

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Tyler was fired from Cruz's presidential campaign in February 2016 after circulating a fake story about Sen. Marco Rubio, also a presidential candidate. He was hired shortly thereafter by MSNBC as a contributor.

Ok, that's just funny.

In any case, Trump has done some good things and some really stupid things. Either way, it's a little early to start writing the obituary only 8 months in. Where there is life, there is hope.

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2017, 01:59:37 pm »

Wow. This gutter rat is still being interviewed as some sort of expert.

bolobaby · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2017, 02:00:57 pm »

At this point, I sort of want them to find evidence of Russian collusion so Trump can be impeached as soon as humanly possible. The only way to save conservatism at this point is for President Pence to step in before well before midterms.

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

TomSea · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:22:40 pm »

One wouldn't expect anything else but sour grapes,

North Dakota, Oklahoma, Kansas, all known Conservative states, give Trump high approval ratings. Those who BS that Trump is not conservative are just smearing others. I will go with the map.

Oh, Glenn Beck also was in Cruz's camp; like I really want to hear what Glenn says.

Take that Never Trumpers, and take this too for your falsehoods.

Those states that voted for Trump are liberal, oh right.

TomSea · « **Reply #5 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:27:11 pm »

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Cruz fires top staffer for promoting false story about Rubio and the Bible
The swift action comes as the Texas senator's rivals are increasingly branding him as a liar.

By ELIZA COLLINS and NOLAN D. MCCASKILL

02/22/2016 03:33 PM EST

Ted Cruz on Monday asked for the resignation of top aide Rick Tyler, who he accused of a “grave error of judgment” for promoting a false story that questioned Marco Rubio’s faith.

The story and accompanying transcript from The Daily Pennsylvanian, a student newspaper, said Rubio had walked by a Cruz staffer on Saturday who was reading a Bible, and told him it didn’t “have many answers in it.”

Tyler, Cruz’s communications director, posted the story on Facebook on Sunday, but later deleted it and apologized after a Cruz staffer said Rubio didn’t make any such comment. But Cruz decided greater action was needed.

Continued: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/breaking-news-cruz-asks-for-national-spokesman-rick-tylers-resignation-219632

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #6 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:29:58 pm »

He's right IMO.

70 year old men don't change. And Trump is ostracizing anyone who might work with him.

How is he wrong?

People in this forum have a hard time with the truth.

Sanguine · « **Reply #7 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:33:06 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 28, 2017, 01:59:37 pm

Wow. This gutter rat is still being interviewed as some sort of expert.

Yes, he was fired from the Cruz campaign, but they introduce him as "Ex-Cruz aide". Technically correct but very deceptive.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:35:00 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 28, 2017, 01:59:37 pm

Wow. This gutter rat is still being interviewed as some sort of expert.

Tagging him to Cruz with this statement is not helpful to the Senator.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:35:56 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on July 28, 2017, 04:29:58 pm

He's right IMO.

70 year old men don't change. And Trump is ostracizing anyone who might work with him.

How is he wrong?

People in this forum have a hard time with the truth.

What would you do to bring McCain, Murkowski and Collins into the fold @Weird Tolkienish Figure

Tell us all what the President missed. Be specific---this is your moment to truly shine.

Idiot · « **Reply #10 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:38:09 pm »

Quote from: bolobaby on July 28, 2017, 02:00:57 pm

At this point, I sort of want them to find evidence of Russian collusion so Trump can be impeached as soon as humanly possible. The only way to save conservatism at this point is for President Pence to step in before well before midterms.

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

This is scaring me...but I agree with you........

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:44:28 pm »

Read credible guy there...

The Trump presidency is not over, but he needs to start making some major changes.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:50:12 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on July 28, 2017, 04:33:06 pm

Yes, he was fired from the Cruz campaign, but they introduce him as "Ex-Cruz aide". Technically correct but very deceptive.

Compounded by Politico as the source, posted here as one of a never-ending string, of #nevertrump agenda articles. IOW it fits a well worn pattern.

Meanwhile, Debbie WS' operative may well have jeopardized our national security, while she was arranging the nomination for Hillary, against Bernie.

Health care reform went down in smoke, thanks to an establishment Republican; the type Trump ran against and defeated to get to his position.

Hillary's campaign probably commissioned the Russia story, from the beginning. (the dossier, the Brit, etc.)

Has Trump's presidency been elegant thus far, not really. Has it born results? Yes. Good ones, and more will follow.

President Trump disrupted the cheese, for democrats, establishment Republicans, the media etc. Makes them very, very uncomfortable.

They can be expected, to keep making trouble for him.

XenaLee · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2017, 04:59:18 pm »

Quote from: bolobaby on July 28, 2017, 02:00:57 pm

At this point, I sort of want them to find evidence of Russian collusion so Trump can be impeached as soon as humanly possible. The only way to save conservatism at this point is for President Pence to step in before well before midterms.

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

That would literally insure that the Democrats regained power of both houses in Congress in 2018.... and would lock in a presidential win for them in 2020. Nobody but a RINO or a Democrat would want that. So why do YOU want it?

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:03:25 pm »

Quote from: mrpotatohead on July 28, 2017, 04:38:09 pm

This is scaring me...but I agree with you........

@mrpotatohead

aligncare · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:08:14 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 28, 2017, 04:50:12 pm

Compounded by Politico as the source, posted here as one of a never-ending string, of #nevertrump agenda articles. IOW it fits a well worn pattern.

Meanwhile, Debbie WS' operative may well have jeopardized our national security, while she was arranging the nomination for Hillary, against Bernie.

Health care reform went down in smoke, thanks to an establishment Republican; the type Trump ran against and defeated to get to his position.

Hillary's campaign probably commissioned the Russia story, from the beginning. (the dossier, the Brit, etc.)

Has Trump's presidency been elegant thus far, not really. Has it born results? Yes. Good ones, and more will follow.

President Trump disrupted the cheese, for democrats, establishment Republicans, the media etc. Makes them very, very uncomfortable.

They can be expected, to keep making trouble for him.

I must say, pithy logic and common sense seem to be your strongest suit. Of course, you have many more fine qualities, too. But, I'll leave those for later -- don't want too many splodie heads from the NT contingent -- might leave too big a mess for our ever vigilant moderators to clean up after.

Idiot · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:14:41 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on July 28, 2017, 04:59:18 pm

That would literally insure that the Democrats regained power of both houses in Congress in 2018.... and would lock in a presidential win for them in 2020. Nobody but a RINO or a Democrat would want that. So why do YOU want it?

Simple answer. The man is FRIGGEN NUTS.

INVAR · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:21:09 pm »

Quote from: bolobaby on July 28, 2017, 02:00:57 pm

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

I'm convinced Destroying all Conservative candidates in the primaries to oppose Hillary was the main purpose of Trump being in the running. Hildabeast's Stalking Horse. I think that instead of taking a knee in the final round like he was supposed to, Trump could't let go of the idea of 'winning' and pushed on for the 'win'.

I think that stunned the entirety of D.C. who thought the 'fix' was in.

The secondary payload of Trump in the White House is to purge Conservatism from any and all political relevance in the GOP and ensure the Uniparty forever remains unopposed by limited government and individual liberty idealism.

bolobaby · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:36:22 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on July 28, 2017, 04:59:18 pm

That would literally insure that the Democrats regained power of both houses in Congress in 2018.... and would lock in a presidential win for them in 2020. Nobody but a RINO or a Democrat would want that. So why do YOU want it?

Bzzzt.

Trump is ensuring (it *is* "ensuring, btw) that the Democrats will not only take both houses, but the Presidency in the next elections.

The ONLY hope to save conservatism is to put an adult conservative back in charge while there is still time to show America what a proper conservative can accomplish. Period.

It seems that YOU want the death of conservatism by continuing to support this clown and his circus. YOU are the one that is ruining any chance of conservatism ever winning the day. YOU brought us Trump and you want the Trump Train to drive conservatism right over a cliff.

Go away, faux conservative. You've done enough damage already.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:37:29 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on July 28, 2017, 05:21:09 pm

.../ The secondary payload of Trump in the White House is to purge Conservatism from any and all political relevance in the GOP and ensure the Uniparty forever remains unopposed by limited government and individual liberty idealism.

Purge what Conservative relevance? The country was ready for change. If Conservatives had any relevance, they would have won. It's really that simple.

Face it, there hasn't been any Conservative relevance since Ronald Reagan. Perhaps it's time to do something more than whine about it and point fingers???

XenaLee · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:40:45 pm »

Quote from: bolobaby on July 28, 2017, 05:36:22 pm

Bzzzt.

Trump is ensuring (it *is* "ensuring, btw) that the Democrats will not only take both houses, but the Presidency in the next elections.

The ONLY hope to save conservatism is to put an adult conservative back in charge while there is still time to show America what a proper conservative can accomplish. Period.

It seems that YOU want the death of conservatism by continuing to support this clown and his circus. YOU are the one that is ruining any chance of conservatism ever winning the day. YOU brought us Trump and you want the Trump Train to drive conservatism right over a cliff.

Go away, faux conservative. You've done enough damage already.

WTF??? LOL! I had nothing, and I do mean NOTHING, to do with bringing anybody Trump.

Get.... a..... (much needed).... clue.

Cripplecreek · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:56:01 pm »

He's been a lame duck almost from the beginning and he can't stop shooting himself in the feet.

INVAR · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2017, 05:57:23 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 28, 2017, 05:37:29 pm

Purge what Conservative relevance? The country was ready for change. If Conservatives had any relevance, they would have won. It's really that simple.

Well by all means, enjoy your Socialist/Marxist majority you have accepted and have fun playing in their sandbox .

Make sure you share your toys with them now, but don't expect them to share with you. It's how Communism works.

The rest of us have no time for the sandbox. We have another playground to build.

Rivergirl · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2017, 06:12:13 pm »

Perhaps now, after scaramoohie, the honorable men and women in government will stop propping up this low life president.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2017, 06:20:38 pm »

Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on July 28, 2017, 04:29:58 pm

He's right IMO.

70 year old men don't change. And Trump is ostracizing anyone who might work with him.

How is he wrong?

People in this forum have a hard time with the truth.

I really did think he could change, and could pivot effectively from campaigning to governing. I thought most of his Cabinet picks were outstanding. But I've given up hope - he cannot manage effectively, he's increasingly erratic, he's sowed a culture of chaos, and he won't do the hard work needed to advance his legislative priorities. All he can do is tweet.

We need President Pence, the sooner the better.