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GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« on: July 24, 2017, 06:12:19 pm »
 GOP despairs at inability to deliver

The party’s failure to repeal Obamacare amid West Wing chaos has GOPers frustrated they’re squandering power.

By Eliana Johnson and Josh Dawsey

07/23/2017 11:54 PM EDT

Updated 07/24/2017 08:19 AM EDT

The Republican Party is more powerful than it’s been in more than a decade — and yet it has never seemed so weak.

Continuing chaos in the White House has been punctuated by the failure to deliver on the GOP’s seven-year pledge to overhaul Obamacare, and has many asking whether the party can capitalize on the sweeping victories it has achieved at the federal, state, and local levels.

Ahead of this week's crucial Senate vote on health care, White House aides are already considering how to distance President Donald Trump from Congress and how to go after the Republicans who vote no — an idea the president seems fond of, according to people who have spoken to him. Several people said he plans to keep up the fight, no matter how this week's vote goes.

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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 06:18:25 pm »
At least this article spreads the blame around. With the Trump admin being ADD right now, you also have the result of the feckless, compromising leadership of Ryan-McConnell. Weakness in principle spills over into weakness of leadership over the process that can't deliver major leglsiation, much less good legislation.
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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 06:27:59 pm »
It's very simple actually.  The GOP leadership had no intention whatsoever to deliver on any of their "promises". Especially ObamaCare.

They like it.  They want to keep it.  They want to be at the head of the table when it comes time to implement Single Payer.

Simple as that.

It's not inability. 

It's unwillingness.

When the Democrats intend to impose Socialism, they do it and find ways to do it.

The GOP refused to do likewise because the leadership shares the same exact agent at the Democrats do, excerpting the fact they think they can manage Socialism better than the Democrats can.

That's it.

The only thing the GOP actually fights, is other Conservatives in the party, any attempt to actually shrink the Beast and FOR the Democrat agenda.

We do not have to convolute analysis as to the minutiae of why exactly they cannot deliver on any promises.  They do not want to.  Period.
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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 06:28:19 pm »
I have an idea.  Get Trump to focus on getting the legislation passed and let go of his war on the press. Oh and put down the dang twitter.
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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 06:36:43 pm »
Conservatives despair at GOP's inability to be Conservative.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2017, 06:37:00 pm by Hoodat »
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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 06:54:08 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 24, 2017, 06:36:43 pm
Conservatives despair at GOP's inability to be Conservative.

It's unwillingness.
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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 11:01:10 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 24, 2017, 06:27:59 pm
It's very simple actually.  The GOP leadership had no intention whatsoever to deliver on any of their "promises". Especially ObamaCare.

They like it.  They want to keep it.  They want to be at the head of the table when it comes time to implement Single Payer.

Simple as that.

It's not inability. 

It's unwillingness.

When the Democrats intend to impose Socialism, they do it and find ways to do it.

The GOP refused to do likewise because the leadership shares the same exact agent at the Democrats do, excerpting the fact they think they can manage Socialism better than the Democrats can.

That's it.

The only thing the GOP actually fights, is other Conservatives in the party, any attempt to actually shrink the Beast and FOR the Democrat agenda.

We do not have to convolute analysis as to the minutiae of why exactly they cannot deliver on any promises.  They do not want to.  Period.




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Re: GOP despairs at inability to deliver
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 12:16:36 am »
They'd get a lot more done if they ditched the Hastert rule.

Trying to run any legislative body with the requirement that Republicans can only propose legislation that has enough Republican votes to be more than the number of votes necessary to exceed the House/Senate majority is a fools errand.

Even moreso in the Senate.  For that requires nearly unanimous support of any legislation by *ALL* Republicans.

We tried this type of rule with the Articles of Confederation. 

It failed.  Failed spectacularly.
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