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Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« on: July 24, 2017, 04:22:15 pm »
Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
Yes, Republicans’ blind fealty to Trump is appalling. But so was the Democrats’ Obama-can-do-no-wrong-ism. Blind loyalty is the game now.
Evan Siegfried
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07.24.17 1:00 AM ET

On a recent Meet the Press segment, host Chuck Todd asked DNC Chairman Tom Perez and RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel if there was still room for moderates/centrists in their respective parties. Both, slightly taken aback, instantly proclaimed of course there is and that moderates were already flocking to their ranks.

Yet Todd, Perez and McDaniel all failed to understand the reality. It is not an issue of whether there is room for moderates in the parties. Instead, the real question is if either party tolerates or has room for people who do not 100 percent adhere to what their leadership says or does?

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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 04:29:08 pm »
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 04:36:15 pm »
And then there are us constitutional federalists that don't care about Party and just want results. And we are neither in slobbering devotion to or full on rage-hate against Trump.

Not only that, we believe in separation of powers and hold Congress and the Courts to the same standard as Trump.

Whether for or against, if you make everything about Trump, or Party, you are part of the problem and not the solution.

« Last Edit: July 24, 2017, 04:36:59 pm by Free Vulcan »
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 04:36:40 pm »
Of course there's room for moderates within the Republican party, that's who's running the show now.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 04:38:24 pm »
Repeal:  You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 04:39:50 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2017, 04:36:40 pm
Of course there's room for moderates within the Republican party, that's who's running the show now.

Ain't that the truth! What this little screed doesn't mention is that on the GOP, loyalty to the Party is loyalty to the moderate Ryan-McConnell agenda of fearful compromise and captulation, hardly ideologue extremism.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 06:02:45 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2017, 04:36:40 pm
Of course there's room for moderates within the Republican party, that's who's running the show now.

Not moderates.  Liberals.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 06:04:45 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on July 24, 2017, 06:02:45 pm
Not moderates.  Liberals.

Well you're all liberals, compared to me.   :laugh:
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 07:08:34 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2017, 06:04:45 pm
Well you're all liberals, compared to me.   :laugh:

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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2017, 08:03:03 pm »
Both parties can go Trump themselves AFAIC.

If they want to charge me with treason for it - let them come.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 04:25:54 am »
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  Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature.

It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 05:41:15 am »
"When in the course of human events..."

The very concept that one has to be "100% on board" with any political party or be committing treason is anathema to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the part of the United States' government I am 100% on board with. Political Parties have come and gone, and will come and go, but the Constitution endures or there is no Country to be treasonous to.

Treason never prospers, what's the reason? For if it prospers, none dare call it treason.

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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 12:52:11 pm »
The Uni-party talking heads have spoken and they are in agreement!

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You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason

Not surprising that sentiment has been leveled at people here now that it's being said in the open at the National level.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 02:05:02 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on July 25, 2017, 12:52:11 pm
The Uni-party talking heads have spoken and they are in agreement!

Not surprising that sentiment has been leveled at people here now that it's being said in the open at the National level.

It is hypocritical of them to demand loyalty when they have shown zero loyalty to what they campaigned on.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 02:06:56 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 25, 2017, 02:05:02 pm
It is hypocritical of them to demand loyalty when they have shown zero loyalty to what they campaigned on.

Yup.  They expect...no demand...a one way agreement with no expectation of reciprocity on their end.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 02:15:08 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 24, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
And then there are us constitutional federalists that don't care about Party and just want results. And we are neither in slobbering devotion to or full on rage-hate against Trump.

Not only that, we believe in separation of powers and hold Congress and the Courts to the same standard as Trump.

Whether for or against, if you make everything about Trump, or Party, you are part of the problem and not the solution.

Damn straight.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2017, 04:23:20 pm »
The word treason has been carelessly thrown around so much, it doesn't mean anything anymore.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2017, 04:58:47 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on July 25, 2017, 02:06:56 pm
Yup.  They expect...no demand...a one way agreement with no expectation of reciprocity on their end.

First images that come to mind are Mitch and Hillary.
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Re: Parties’ Message: You’re Either 100 Percent on Board or Committing Treason
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2017, 02:42:31 am »
It's like the left and Right are in their own centrifuges.

As the pace of the rhetoric speeds up, so does the speed at which the centrifuges spin, pushing those inside further and further towards "the edges".

Certainly so for the democrat/communists.

Although the Pubbies are by nature so mushy, they're just stuck and don't move much in any direction at all, except towards self-interest... ;)
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