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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2017, 11:03:17 pm »
If you worked there and he took the tour, perhaps you ran into each other?

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@Joe Wooten is far more polite than I!
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2017, 11:03:26 pm »

That is why there are containment domes to prevent for things from happening in the U.S.

Uh, yeah.  How's that relate to the price of tea in China, or the conversation that was going on?

Or are you simply an anti-nuke nut?

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2017, 11:03:46 pm »
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2017, 11:04:11 pm »
You know this for sure?  He did just say that he's worked there before.

I have photographs of myself standing in front of the dome.

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2017, 11:04:25 pm »
@Joe Wooten is far more polite than I!

I hope he didn't think I was trying to insult him - @Joe Wooten I mean - I was just going for a little levity.

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2017, 11:05:29 pm »
If you worked there and he took the tour, perhaps you ran into each other?

:bigsilly:

Probably not. I was there for two weeks back in 2012.

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2017, 11:05:59 pm »

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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2017, 11:06:30 pm »
Probably not. I was there for two weeks back in 2012.

I was there 6 months ago

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2017, 11:08:22 pm »
I have photographs of myself standing in front of the dome.

Nobody is saying you weren't there.  I asked how it is you knew that Joe Wooten wasn't there, particularly after he said he'd worked there.

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2017, 11:09:16 pm »
I was there 6 months ago

I needed a clearance from SCE. I still have my visitors pass.
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2017, 11:11:23 pm »
I have photographs of myself standing in front of the dome.

I don't think that at all!

I would have told the troll to take a hike long ago is all I meant.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2017, 11:12:38 pm »
I don't think that at all!

I would have told the troll to take a hike long ago is all I meant.

I agree. He should take a long walk.

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2017, 11:13:28 pm »
Chernobyl had its roof blown out spreading radiation

Chernobyl was a RMBK reactor, which was a plutonium production reactor scaled up for commercial power production. It operated on a positive void coefficient, which means that if steam forms in the core, nuclear fission rate goes up. The Russian operators had to work to keep those reactors from going out of control. The Western design Light water reactors are negative void coefficient reactors, which means that if steam forms in the core, reactivity goes down below the self sustaining point. operators at PWR/BWR/ CANDU reactors have to work at keeping them going. If they left them alone, they all shut themselves down. Edward Teller stood firm and got the old AEC to not allow scaling up of the plutonium production reactors at Hanford and South Carolina to commercial size. The US took a few more years of research to scale up the PWR's being developed for the Navy.

Again LWR's CANNOT explode.

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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2017, 11:14:07 pm »
I agree. He should take a long walk.

Yeah! He should!  (He is YOU!!)


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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2017, 11:18:23 pm »
Chernobyl was a RMBK reactor, which was a plutonium production reactor scaled up for commercial power production. It operated on a positive void coefficient, which means that if steam forms in the core, nuclear fission rate goes up. The Russian operators had to work to keep those reactors from going out of control. The Western design Light water reactors are negative void coefficient reactors, which means that if steam forms in the core, reactivity goes down below the self sustaining point. operators at PWR/BWR/ CANDU reactors have to work at keeping them going. If they left them alone, they all shut themselves down. Edward Teller stood firm and got the old AEC to not allow scaling up of the plutonium production reactors at Hanford and South Carolina to commercial size. The US took a few more years of research to scale up the PWR's being developed for the Navy.

Again LWR's CANNOT explode.

San Onofre is a fission reactor not a Light Water. But there is always a chance of a meltdown that is why U.S. reactors have so much safety standards. One feature is a containment dome. That is why they constantly drill if there is an accident. I was even given a suit just in case.
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2017, 11:22:19 pm »
San Onofre is a fission reactor not a Light Water. But there is always a chance of a meltdown that is why U.S. reactors have so much safety standards. One feature is a containment dome. That is why they constantly drill if there is an accident. I was even given a suit just in case.

I even questioned why there were surfers so close to San Onofre. They did not mind because they were constantly monitored by the security. They even roadblocks there down the main road. San Onofre is supposed to withstand a 7.0 earthquake.
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2017, 11:26:44 pm »
You were not at the facility.

You are a moron.

I am a mechanical engineer, with a degree from UT Austin, specializing in power plant systems.

I used to work For Westinghouse and before that I worked at Comanche Peak, Dresden, Laguna Verde, Angra, Davis-Besse, Perry, Beaver Valley, Robinson, and  Cooper plants. After starting with Westinghouse, I've been at South Texas, Wolf Creek, Fort Calhoun, San Onofre, Waterford, and Prairie Island.

I've worked in operating nuclear plants with full unescorted access to the whole plant for extended periods ranging from weeks to decades.

You took a tour and now consider yourself an expert. Take a hike.

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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2017, 11:27:36 pm »
You are a moron.

I am a mechanical engineer, with a degree from UT Austin, specializing in power plant systems.

I used to work For Westinghouse and before that I worked at Comanche Peak, Dresden, Laguna Verde, Angra, Davis-Besse, Perry, Beaver Valley, Robinson, and  Cooper plants. After starting with Westinghouse, I've been at South Texas, Wolf Creek, Fort Calhoun, San Onofre, Waterford, and Prairie Island.

I've worked in operating nuclear plants with full unescorted access to the whole plant for extended periods ranging from weeks to decades.

You took a tour and now consider yourself an expert. Take a hike.

Right. I am King George of England. Anyone can claim your resume.
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2017, 11:31:07 pm »
San Onofre is a fission reactor not a Light Water. But there is always a chance of a meltdown that is why U.S. reactors have so much safety standards. One feature is a containment dome. That is why they constantly drill if there is an accident. I was even given a suit just in case.

Lord, you are a complete moron. ALL reactors are fission reactors. Light water reactors are the type we have in the US/ Europe/Asia. A little basic research in Wikipedia would have educated you on the reasons why western style LWR's cannot explode. The containment buildings (not all are domes) are for containing fission by-products in the case of a meltdown. Your knowledge is pathetic and I will not argue with you any more until you get a few more facts.

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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2017, 11:32:35 pm »
Lord, you are a complete moron. ALL reactors are fission reactors. Light water reactors are the type we have in the US/ Europe/Asia. A little basic research in Wikipedia would have educated you on the reasons why western style LWR's cannot explode. The containment buildings (not all are domes) are for containing fission by-products in the case of a meltdown. Your knowledge is pathetic and I will not argue with you any more until you get a few more facts.

Light waters only make a part. The rest are fission. Nobody wants to live next to a fission in the United States.
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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2017, 11:34:52 pm »
Lord, you are a complete moron. ALL reactors are fission reactors. Light water reactors are the type we have in the US/ Europe/Asia. A little basic research in Wikipedia would have educated you on the reasons why western style LWR's cannot explode. The containment buildings (not all are domes) are for containing fission by-products in the case of a meltdown. Your knowledge is pathetic and I will not argue with you any more until you get a few more facts.
When people start calling names they are losing the fight. I would expect more class from an educated man. Talk to the hand.
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2017, 11:38:28 pm »
When people start calling names they are losing the fight. Talk to the hand.

In your case he is just stating facts.  Take a hike troll!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2017, 11:39:04 pm »
In your case he is just stating facts.  Take a hike troll!

I would expect more class from an educated man.Pathetic and sad
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Re: First Look Inside Fukushima Reactor Revealed
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2017, 11:41:00 pm »
I would expect more class from an educated man.Pathetic and sad

Expect in one hand and crap in the other.  See which one gets full first!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2017, 11:41:03 pm »
In your case he is just stating facts.  Take a hike troll!

The newbie is making friends and influencing people fast.  He must be a damn Dale Carnegie grad.