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RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else

Posted at 4:00 am on July 20, 2017 by Jay Caruso


Party loyalty in politics is nothing new. The fact is, most people who vote for Democrats and Republicans are “party” people. Meaning it doesn’t much matter what positions an individual candidate or office holder has on issues. Voters walk into a booth, look at the party and vote for the Republican or the Democrat. It is the case in most scenarios, and that’s just a fact.

Hard-core supporters are there and don’t like it when you criticize their guy. That’s understandable as well. But those are issues between voters, not the party and the candidates running under the banner of that party.

When it comes to candidates and people in office, the Republican National Committee has a responsibility to back Republicans. As much as it stung for some people, Donald Trump won the nomination, and the party infrastructure backed him. It didn’t matter if he smeared fellow Republican candidates with lies and ridiculous conspiracy theories. The party supported him because it does so for Republicans.

However, it doesn’t appear as though that kind of thinking applies to other Republicans now, especially if they’ve been critical of Donald Trump:
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The Republican National Committee isn’t spending big for New Jersey gubernatorial candidate Kim Guadagno because the RNC doesn’t think she has been loyal to President Trump, NJ.com reported Wednesday.

Guadagno, currently the lieutenant governor under Gov. Chris Christie (R), is viewed skeptically by the RNC because of her criticism of Trump after the release of the “Access Hollywood” tape and as a lost cause, the report said.

“[The president] is unhappy with anyone who neglected him in his hour of need,” an RNC insider reportedly said, referring to Guadagno’s public disavowal of Trump last fall after the surfacing last year of the “Access Hollywood” tape, in which Trump brags about sexually assaulting women.

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http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/07/20/rnc-gop-candidates-fealty-donald-trump-else/
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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 05:46:38 pm »
Compounding stupidity. 

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 05:50:06 pm »
Guadagno, currently the lieutenant governor under Gov. Chris Christie (R), is viewed skeptically by the RNC because of her criticism of Trump after the release of the “Access Hollywood” tape and as a lost cause, the report said.

Utter bullshit from an unnamed source frowm our #NT dopes at Red State. She is being ignored by the RNC because she is going to loose her ass no matter how much money they dump in that state. She is directly connected to on of the most HATED Govs in the country. He barely has 20% approval. The RNC spending one nickle on this broad is an act of stupidity.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 05:52:46 pm »
Fealty to a man?

Allrighty then. God save the queen.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2017, 06:19:57 pm »
Cripplecreek to RNC

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2017, 06:52:29 pm »
Guadagno, currently the lieutenant governor under Gov. Chris Christie (R), is viewed skeptically by the RNC because of her criticism of Trump after the release of the “Access Hollywood” tape and as a lost cause, the report said.

Utter bullshit from an unnamed source frowm our #NT dopes at Red State. She is being ignored by the RNC because she is going to loose her ass no matter how much money they dump in that state. She is directly connected to on of the most HATED Govs in the country. He barely has 20% approval. The RNC spending one nickle on this broad is an act of stupidity.

Of course.  Anything that is in the least critical of Trump is, ipso facto, fake b.s.   

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2017, 09:09:17 pm »
From the article:

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If the RNC stated that they weren’t going all in because Guadagno is trying to ride into office on the
scorched coattails of Chris Christie, that might make some sense. But that isn’t the justification here. The
thinking appears to be Guadagno didn’t rush in to defend Donald Trump when audio tape revealed he thinks
men in positions of power can do what they want with women sans repercussions
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What Guadagno did was not unreasonable. She was hardly the first Republican to distance themselves from
Trump when that tape hit the public airwaves. Now the RNC is going to withhold funds and assistance from
a Republican candidate because of Donald Trump? Since when did the RNC become beholden to one person
instead of the party as a whole?

It only proves Trump doesn’t just want loyalty. He wants slavish devotion. Fealty. Without it, he has no use
for a person. It is a dangerous method if the GOP wants to grow. If the party is going to refuse help for
people who have been Republicans far longer than President Trump because his thin skin can’t deal with
criticism, it doesn’t bode well for the future
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Grow up, Mr. President. And just as important, I say to the RNC: Grow a spine. You have more important
issues to think about and much more coming your way.
(Emphases added.--EA.)

For the further record: Guadagno has also been distancing herself from Chris Christie since long enough before
the ill-fated holiday weekend at the beach.* (Christie's little pathetic dance at the end of Donaldus Minimus's puppet
strings last winter would have been reason enough.) But the RNC says it's her "disloyalty" to Donaldus Minimus
that makes them demur.

(* For which Christie and his family were helicoptered into the area. I'm still trying to learn whether the state troopers
guarding and flying them called it Operation Dumbo Drop . . .)


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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2017, 09:14:52 pm »
Been reading that the RNC is funding the attorney fees for jared, Donnie bebe, and dt himself.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2017, 12:56:24 pm »
Been reading that the RNC is funding the attorney fees for jared, Donnie bebe, and dt himself.

I know the suggestion has been made but I haven't heard that they would.

If they do they may as well start selling off all their assets because the GOP will be done.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2017, 01:11:54 pm »
We can 'help' the RNC by not making any donations.  NONE

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2017, 01:15:04 pm »
Compounding stupidity.
@Oceander

“[The president] is unhappy with anyone who neglected him in his hour of need,” an RNC insider reportedly said...."

The party is using Trump methodology - punish anyone who doesn't agree with him on any issue and if you dare criticize him in any way, he will never forget it and "punish" you forever.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2017, 01:15:34 pm by Victoria33 »

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2017, 01:33:24 pm »
Of course.  Anything that is in the least critical of Trump is, ipso facto, fake b.s.

Tell me why this woman is worth an ounce of time and money. Show me what indicators that the state will ever vote for a Republican again after Christie Creme drove it into the ground.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2017, 01:35:04 pm »
Yes, Trump shows us all what loyalty is about by defecating on Jeff Sessions....the same Jeff Sessions who gave Trump a large share of credibility by strongly supporting him during the primaries.
Now that Sessions (justifiably) recused himself from the Mueller investigation,  His Orangeness decides that Sessions is an awful person.
That's what Trump is all about....be loyal to me with no questions asked....until I decide to have your head chopped off.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2017, 01:44:08 pm »
Of course.  Anything that is in the least critical of Trump is, ipso facto, fake b.s.
It's Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Posters who previously were cynical all of a sudden get replaced behind the keyboards with Trump-supporting drones from Macedonia.


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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2017, 01:46:32 pm »
Yes, Trump shows us all what loyalty is about by defecating on Jeff Sessions....That's what Trump is all about....be loyal to me with no questions asked....until I decide to have your head chopped off.
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"until I decide to have your head chopped off"
That is a good way to put it.  Trump is no different than the crazy North Korea guy.  One never knows when Trump is gong to take umbrage at something you say, and you lose your head.

Trump is so nuts, that is why there are no cameras at press conferences now.  He doesn't want anyone but him being shown on TV.   That sounds exactly like what the North Korea guy would do.

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2017, 01:59:20 pm »
Memo to RNC: let's leave the loyalty pledges to quasi-religious cults and psychotic dictators, shall we?
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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2017, 02:00:08 pm »
@goatprairie

"until I decide to have your head chopped off"
That is a good way to put it.  Trump is no different than the crazy North Korea guy.  One never knows when Trump is gong to take umbrage at something you say, and you lose your head.

Trump is so nuts, that is why there are no cameras at press conferences now.  He doesn't want anyone but him being shown on TV.   That sounds exactly like what the North Korea guy would do.

I remember some years ago when 2 Trump casino executives were killed in a helicopter crash. Trump gave a glowing eulogy of the men he said were of the finest character, he considered them to be family members, he wouldn't be anything without them, he would personally take care of their families.

3 weeks later Trump Casinos were in bankruptcy and the men of fine character became the lowest form of life who betrayed Trump's trust and ripped him off. As far as taking care of the men's families was concerned, Trump told them to use their life insurance.

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 02:16:53 pm »
It's Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Posters who previously were cynical all of a sudden get replaced behind the keyboards with Trump-supporting drones from Macedonia.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo

I'll ask you then. Under what scenario does this woman get elected? Is there any amount of money that should be taken away from winnable states like VA to get this woman over the finish line?

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Re: RNC to GOP Candidates: Fealty to Donald Trump or Else (Caruso)
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 02:25:14 pm »
One never knows when Trump is going to take umbrage at something you say, and you lose your head.

His associates (and supporters) know perfectly well that he will dump them eventually, just like he dumps everybody else.  By sucking up, they attempt to delay the inevitable.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2017, 03:01:54 pm »
@goatprairie

"until I decide to have your head chopped off"
That is a good way to put it.  Trump is no different than the crazy North Korea guy.  One never knows when Trump is gong to take umbrage at something you say, and you lose your head.

Trump is so nuts, that is why there are no cameras at press conferences now.  He doesn't want anyone but him being shown on TV.   That sounds exactly like what the North Korea guy would do.

Just like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2017, 03:08:24 pm »
@goatprairie

"until I decide to have your head chopped off"
That is a good way to put it.  Trump is no different than the crazy North Korea guy.  One never knows when Trump is gong to take umbrage at something you say, and you lose your head.

Trump is so nuts, that is why there are no cameras at press conferences now.  He doesn't want anyone but him being shown on TV.   That sounds exactly like what the North Korea guy would do.

I see that a reporter livestreamed a white house press conference yesterday. I'm sure they're dutifully hunting the enemy of the state who did it.

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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2017, 03:19:57 pm »
I know the suggestion has been made but I haven't heard that they would.

If they do they may as well start selling off all their assets because the GOP will be done.
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No, it is not RNC funds - it is Trump's campaign fund.  If you remember, in the past couple of months, he did two fund raisers for his campaign fund for his next campaign, bringing in millions of dollars.  He is using campaign funds to pay for lawyers, in other words, not his money, but other's money.

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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2017, 03:21:11 pm »
Just like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland.
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Yes, exactly like the Red Queen.

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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2017, 04:44:00 pm »
I'll ask you then. Under what scenario does this woman get elected? Is there any amount of money that should be taken away from winnable states like VA to get this woman over the finish line?
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2017, 10:54:41 pm »
I remember some years ago when 2 Trump casino executives were killed in a helicopter crash. Trump gave a glowing eulogy of the men he said were of the finest character, he considered them to be family members, he wouldn't be anything without them, he would personally take care of their families.

3 weeks later Trump Casinos were in bankruptcy and the men of fine character became the lowest form of life who betrayed Trump's trust and ripped him off. As far as taking care of the men's families was concerned, Trump told them to use their life insurance.

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Wow.  That's...I don't know if I have a word for how low it is.